KHV Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless. We have Holt and Bertrand, therefore we can't take another domestic loan signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/handbooks/premier-league-handbook-2012-2013.pdf V.7.5. the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be 4 and in no circumstances shall more than 1 be from the same Transferor Club save there shall be excluded from these numbers any Temporary Transfer of the kind described in V.7.6.1 or V.7.6.2; M.7 180PREMIER LEAGUE RULES: SECTION V V.7.6. not more than 2 Temporary Transfers shall be registered by a Club at the same time except that there shall be excluded from that number: V.7.6.1. any Temporary Transfer which become permanent; and V.7.6.2. the Temporary Transfer of a goalkeeper which in its absolute discretion the Board may allow in circumstances it considers to be exceptional; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaIRE Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/handbooks/premier-league-handbook-2012-2013.pdf V.7.5. the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be 4 and in no circumstances shall more than 1 be from the same Transferor Club save there shall be excluded from these numbers any Temporary Transfer of the kind described in V.7.6.1 or V.7.6.2; M.7 180PREMIER LEAGUE RULES: SECTION V V.7.6. not more than 2 Temporary Transfers shall be registered by a Club at the same time except that there shall be excluded from that number: V.7.6.1. any Temporary Transfer which become permanent; and V.7.6.2. the Temporary Transfer of a goalkeeper which in its absolute discretion the Board may allow in circumstances it considers to be exceptional; This is also important: v7.4 "the minimum period of a Temporary Transfer shall be the period between 2 consecutive Transfer Windows and the period of a Temporary Transfer shall not extend beyond 30th June next after it was entered into" Thus it appears to be 4 season-long loans, and up to 12 short-term as per my previous post. I also understand, that if a player is loaned from a club outside the rules set by the FA (i.e., from abroad), a loan agreement is considered, for all intents and purposes, as a permanent transfer and is not subject to the quotas above. Edited January 24, 2014 by VillaIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Lambert said the number 10s he had in mind weren't affordable so how on earth would be afford Lescott's wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 24, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2014 That said, I don't think a Premiership club has ever loaned a lower league player before I doubt that's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 That said, I don't think a Premiership club has ever loaned a lower league player before I doubt that's true Good pub quiz question. Can't think of anyone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) That said, I don't think a Premiership club has ever loaned a lower league player beforeI doubt that's true Weren't West Brom in the championship when we loaned Curtis Davies? Edited January 24, 2014 by dodgyknees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) That said, I don't think a Premiership club has ever loaned a lower league player before I doubt that's true Roger Johnson, Erik Bakke, Curtis Davies. Two of them are us. Edited January 24, 2014 by Milfner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 That said, I don't think a Premiership club has ever loaned a lower league player before I doubt that's true It's not. West Ham took Roger Johnson on loan barely two weeks previous. I'm still unsure on the rules. The above doesn't seem to clear anything up. If anyone is that interested perhaps an email to the FA would clear things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 That said, I don't think a Premiership club has ever loaned a lower league player before I doubt that's true We signed Kiraly when he was in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 So we've figured out that we love a loan from the championship. I have a feeling we're remembering these in particular because they involved Aston Villa. I bet it happens much more than we think. In other words, there will be a defined rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless. We have Holt and Bertrand, therefore we can't take another domestic loan signing Neither Holt or Bertrand are season-long loans though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless. We have Holt and Bertrand, therefore we can't take another domestic loan signing Neither Holt or Bertrand are season-long loans though... Both longer than the 93 days or less needed for a short term loan classification though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 That said, I don't think a Premiership club has ever loaned a lower league player beforeI doubt that's trueIt's not. West Ham took Roger Johnson on loan barely two weeks previous. I'm still unsure on the rules. The above doesn't seem to clear anything up. If anyone is that interested perhaps an email to the FA would clear things up. Taraabt to Fulham aswell, I'm pretty sure that's a loan deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Remy to Newcastle too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegzy Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Loic Remy at Newcastle from QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaIRE Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 That said, I don't think a Premiership club has ever loaned a lower league player before I doubt that's true It's not. West Ham took Roger Johnson on loan barely two weeks previous. I'm still unsure on the rules. The above doesn't seem to clear anything up. If anyone is that interested perhaps an email to the FA would clear things up. Sorry, I will try to summarise my take on the rules: 1) A maximum of 4 "temporary players" or "Long term loans" are permitted per club with the minimum period defined as being that between two consecutive windows: i.e., between August-January, or January-June. Per the FA: "Long Term Loan Transfers shall be for a full Playing Season; or from any date prior to 31st August to any date between 1st and 31st January; or from any date between 1st and 31st January (the January transfer window) to the end of the Playing Season." 2) A maximum of 12 "short-term" loan players per season, with the loan period being a minimum of 28 days and a maximum of 93 days. These are not considered "temporary players" or "long term loans" since the maximum period for these loans is shorter than the minimum period described in 1). 3) No more than 2 players may be loaned from clubs within the same division and no more than 1 loan from the same team, unless that player is either a) a goalkeeper or where there is an agreement in place between clubs that the loaned player is purchased at the end of the loan agreement. 4) "Foreign loans", i.e, players originating outside the The Premier League, The Football League, The Football Conference, The Isthmian Football League, The Northern Premier League and The Southern Football League, are not considered loan signings by the FA (even though a loan agreement is made between clubs), and thus do not count to the quotas above. I am open to correction, but I believe these are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaIRE Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless. We have Holt and Bertrand, therefore we can't take another domestic loan signing Neither Holt or Bertrand are season-long loans though... They would be considered "long-term" loans if they are here until June, or greater than 93 days. This means we are able to loan 2 more players until the end of the season, but they cannot originate from Chelsea or Norwich Wigan, unless we have agreed to buy Holt or Bertrand at the end of the loan agreement, or agree to buy the new loanee. Edit: Corrected mistake Edited January 24, 2014 by VillaIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless. We have Holt and Bertrand, therefore we can't take another domestic loan signing Neither Holt or Bertrand are season-long loans though... They would be considered "long-term" loans if they are here until June, or greater than 93 days. This means we are able to loan 2 more players until the end of the season, but they cannot originate from Chelsea or Norwich, unless we have agreed to buy Holt or Bertrand at the end of the loan agreement, or agree to buy the new loanee. Congruently, this means we will not target a loan deal for Hoolahan unless we agree to buy him in July, or have already agreed to buy Holt. Norwich? Holt is from wigan remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaIRE Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless. We have Holt and Bertrand, therefore we can't take another domestic loan signing Neither Holt or Bertrand are season-long loans though... They would be considered "long-term" loans if they are here until June, or greater than 93 days. This means we are able to loan 2 more players until the end of the season, but they cannot originate from Chelsea or Norwich, unless we have agreed to buy Holt or Bertrand at the end of the loan agreement, or agree to buy the new loanee. Congruently, this means we will not target a loan deal for Hoolahan unless we agree to buy him in July, or have already agreed to buy Holt. Norwich? Holt is from wigan remember. Sorry, yes - you're correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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