coda Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 It's more complicated than having a 'medical problem'. There's some chemical which your brain releases to indicate you've eaten enough and it works differently for everyone. If I'm hungover I can't stop eating (maybe due to this chemical). If I was hungover every day I'd be a fat bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 What beats me is - how do the morbidly obese manage to breed? Because they clearly do. Dang, now I have to bite my tongue because we don't know who's reading and I don't want to risk offending anyone in the name of humour For shame some of you is that what you see when you see a fat person ..someone who is just lazy and hungry life isn't that black and white Mine was actually an honest question. Read it without thinking I have an agenda ! my bad ...sorry don't get me wrong , the obese man in Brazil who tried to sue McDonalds for making him fat doesn't really have my sympathy , but not every obese person just eats too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I can't eat at all when hungover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I agree with CVByrne, there's no excuse for the average person to allow their weight to spiral out of control. Isn't that just the point, though? It's something that happens gradually rather than overnight. I also very much doubt that even if one were to recognise the point at which someone crossed over in to the 'obese' (what's the definition here, btw? The BMI thingy?) that it is just a case of 'easing back on the takeaways'. Wouldn't there also be a point at which exercise (that is something that most of us would consider exercising rather than simply moving around) and the need for it to address weight problems becomes a bit of a catch 22 situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 There are some legitimate excuses for it, but for the average person to get obese, not just fat, takes some serious disregard for their own health. In my opinion, ofcourse. Even if you have an over-zealous appetite, then I think the average person should be of sound enough mind to recognise this and do something about it. You don't just wake up obese, time gives you plenty of opportunity to take charge of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 People. Just people. And on topic. And that poster again. And my arm. I know what you're saying. I keep popping in to 'On Topic' to try and get involved in what is a really exciting period, but as you say, one poster in particular dominating and killing any kind of interesting conversation. So I leave again. It's like we're wrong for being positive and here are the reasons why: ' ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 21, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mine was actually an honest question. Read it without thinking I have an agenda ! my bad ...sorry don't get me wrong , the obese man in Brazil who tried to sue McDonalds for making him fat doesn't really have my sympathy , but not every obese person just eats too much Yeah I know not everyone is, but if the answer to my question was less than 10% which the cynic in me expects that it would be, then they'd have to provide a medical certificate in exchange for sympathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I read an article about childhood obesity in which they were trying to establish if children stopped exercising because they were fat or were they fat because they stopped exercising. I think the results indicated the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Obese people. Really can't stand that level of laziness. I can understand fatness as some people have trouble with weight. But being obese is laziness personified. For me, I know when i feel uncomfortable if I put on a couple of pounds and I work hard to get it off. So I can't imagine how people can get obese. I feel shit about myself even if I'm the tiniest bit overweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mine was actually an honest question. Read it without thinking I have an agenda ! my bad ...sorry don't get me wrong , the obese man in Brazil who tried to sue McDonalds for making him fat doesn't really have my sympathy , but not every obese person just eats too much Yeah I know not everyone is, but if the answer to my question was less than 10% which the cynic in me expects that it would be, then they'd have to provide a medical certificate in exchange for sympathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Should letting your child get fat be considered child abuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Obese people. Really can't stand that level of laziness. I can understand fatness as some people have trouble with weight. But being obese is laziness personified. For me, I know when i feel uncomfortable if I put on a couple of pounds and I work hard to get it off. So I can't imagine how people can get obese. I feel shit about myself even if I'm the tiniest bit overweight. Yeah, pretty much this. There are plenty of warning signs to heed before you get into the realms of obesity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 21, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2013 People who say "I'm not rude, I'm just honest" No, that's being rude you silly word removed. Yeah, this winds me up. People that say, 'I just say it as it is' and say it proudly like that's a good thing. Sometimes in life you need a bit of tact. Exactly. A lack of tact is rude. Being brutally honest isn't ok in every situation. See also, "that's just the way he is". If your behaviour has to be excused by someone saying "that's just the way he is", chances are you're a **** word removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Should letting your child get fat be considered child abuse? probably yes , as it would suggest the parents are doing something wrong ( baring medical reasons) but I'd also say making your child a veggie because you are or making your child go to church because you believe , are also forms of child abuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 For shame some of you is that what you see when you see a fat person ..someone who is just lazy and hungry life isn't that black and white Well I ally my observations with peoples activity. Of the few obese people I've worked with or known passively. The amount of sugar and chocolate ingested has made me link their habits with their obvious weight. Also the laziness, if I was overweight I'd walk up 1 flight of stairs, I'd walk to the shop which is 5 mins away. But any way to reduce activity the people I know do. I understand that it's not as simple as obese = lazy. But I believe the majority of obese people are lazy based on my knowledge of the activities of the few I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 21, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 21, 2013 Should letting your child get fat be considered child abuse? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The obese people on benefits with 7 kids, who can't afford to feed their kids because they spent all their money on PS3's and 60 inch TV's. **** those obese people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The obese people on benefits with 7 kids, who can't afford to feed their kids because they spent all their money on PS3's and 60 inch TV's. **** those obese people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The obese people on benefits with 7 kids, who can't afford to feed their kids because they spent all their money on PS3's and 60 inch TV's. **** those obese people. is that you Mr Duncan Smith ? The obese people on benefits with 7 kids, who can't afford to feed their kids because they spent all their money on PS3's and 60 inch TV's. **** those obese people. damn you coda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I suppose I mean rather than obese people as a generalisation. Obese people who are that way through their own laziness and bad diet. Then the doomed to fail pathetic attempt to lose weight for 3 days before buying a tub of hagen das. My older brother is fat and lazy and I'd give him lots of stick years back for eating a salad only to retire to his room with a tub of ice cream. There's me trying to break 45min 10k with never ending foot problems that require orthotics which merely move the pain around. Then I tear my achilles. To have two siblings so diametrically opposed in their levels of laziness always gave me moments of pause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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