Dodgyknees Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 We play with 3 strikers, we haven't sufficient cover for them. We don't play with three strikers, we play with one and we have two wide midfielders/wingers. Gabby + Weimann play those positions because they have the speed and stamina to get forward and support Benteke yet also get back to help Luna + Lowton. If Benteke gets injured, the replacement will be Helenius, Gabby or Weimann. If Gabby or Weimann gets injured, then their place will be taken by Tonev, Bacuna, Delph, Bowery, or Albrighton. We have plenty of 'battlers' in the middle like Delph, El Ahmedi and Sylla. Westwood is sitting in there, mopping up and spreading the ball. No one who can play just in front of them with the creativity/trickery to unlock good defences. And if anyone thinks N'Zogbia is the answer, they need their head examined. So Andi and Gabby are not strikers then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 We play with 3 strikers, we haven't sufficient cover for them. We don't play with three strikers, we play with one and we have two wide midfielders/wingers. Gabby + Weimann play those positions because they have the speed and stamina to get forward and support Benteke yet also get back to help Luna + Lowton. If Benteke gets injured, the replacement will be Helenius, Gabby or Weimann. If Gabby or Weimann gets injured, then their place will be taken by Tonev, Bacuna, Delph, Bowery, or Albrighton. We have plenty of 'battlers' in the middle like Delph, El Ahmedi and Sylla. Westwood is sitting in there, mopping up and spreading the ball. No one who can play just in front of them with the creativity/trickery to unlock good defences. And if anyone thinks N'Zogbia is the answer, they need their head examined. So Andi and Gabby are not strikers then? They are strikers playing as wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 We play with 3 strikers, we haven't sufficient cover for them. We don't play with three strikers, we play with one and we have two wide midfielders/wingers. Gabby + Weimann play those positions because they have the speed and stamina to get forward and support Benteke yet also get back to help Luna + Lowton. If Benteke gets injured, the replacement will be Helenius, Gabby or Weimann. If Gabby or Weimann gets injured, then their place will be taken by Tonev, Bacuna, Delph, Bowery, or Albrighton. We have plenty of 'battlers' in the middle like Delph, El Ahmedi and Sylla. Westwood is sitting in there, mopping up and spreading the ball. No one who can play just in front of them with the creativity/trickery to unlock good defences. And if anyone thinks N'Zogbia is the answer, they need their head examined. So Andi and Gabby are not strikers then? Well we do, but 2 of them are played out of position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 We play with 3 strikers, we haven't sufficient cover for them. We don't play with three strikers, we play with one and we have two wide midfielders/wingers. Gabby + Weimann play those positions because they have the speed and stamina to get forward and support Benteke yet also get back to help Luna + Lowton. If Benteke gets injured, the replacement will be Helenius, Gabby or Weimann. If Gabby or Weimann gets injured, then their place will be taken by Tonev, Bacuna, Delph, Bowery, or Albrighton. We have plenty of 'battlers' in the middle like Delph, El Ahmedi and Sylla. Westwood is sitting in there, mopping up and spreading the ball. No one who can play just in front of them with the creativity/trickery to unlock good defences. And if anyone thinks N'Zogbia is the answer, they need their head examined. So Andi and Gabby are not strikers then? Well we do, but 2 of them are played out of position So, we do play with two strikers, just out of position, it does leave us short of cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ivelin Popov? He scored last night against Feyenoord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Just trying to think of strikers that wouldn't be too expensive that would cause "meltdown". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I believe we are after a winger or offensive midfielder. Joey Barton it is then! On a more serious note, if it is indeed a striker we're after and we're not going to be spending much over £4m (according to one or two), then whats the point? We already spent very little on two strikers in Bowery and Helenius. Whats £4m going to get us? Now, if we were talking double that amount, I would trust Lambert to bring in a quality back-up. Otherwise..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Just trying to think of strikers that wouldn't be too expensive that would cause "meltdown". Think you need to stop reading too much into Richard's meltdown comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 We are so desperate for creativity I will be shocked if we sign someone who isn't an creative attacking midfielder Then I think you are in for a shock. Is that based on any credible information or is it just a pessimistic hunch ? there seems to be more information pointing towards an attacking signing than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 there seems to be a lot of evidence that we have at least enquired about a few AM's (kiyotake was mentioned by Paul Faulkner), so perhaps the manager wants to have the flexibility to change from 4-3-3 to 4-3-1-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'm not trying to close discussion or stop people from speculating, people can speculate as much as they want it is the point of the thread. You said you didn't know why he needs a striker, so I was trying to answer that point and explain why I think he does. We might sign a winger or midfielder, we will see soon enough. Fair enough. I just can't see a good enough striker, who we think will be better at scoring than Gabby and Weimann, wanting to sit on the bench. And I don't see Gabby or Weimann being particularly pleased to sit on the bench either.... We are really good upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Will we sign a striker better than Darren Bent? I'd hope that the rumour it's someone who will come in and make a difference is true and IMO that rules out a striker. I see an attacking midfield player or a forward player suited out wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Will we sign a striker better than Darren Bent? I'd hope that the rumour it's someone who will come in and make a difference is true and IMO that rules out a striker. I see an attacking midfield player or a forward player suited out wide. Exactly how I see it Edited August 30, 2013 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa-revolution Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 We need that AM. Especially at home when the away sides park the bus & hit us on the break. So far this season it has not been so glaringly obvious because we have had such difficult opening fixtures. How are we going to solve this problem though once it becomes so apparent after the window closes if we don't swoop for the bleedin' obvious now while we have the chance? I have to laugh also at people saying what if Benteke get's injured? Surely it should be the other way round & opposition managers, players & fans should be asking themselves what if Benteke breaks all our collar bones this week? What are we going to do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Will we sign a striker better than Darren Bent? I'd hope that the rumour it's someone who will come in and make a difference is true and IMO that rules out a striker. I see an attacking midfield player or a forward player suited out wide. Maybe not straight away (as in not the finished article) but I think if we do have a striker come in then he will have bags of potential and at least be a lot better value than Bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Isn't Helenius one for the future? It seems pointless to sign another player like that when we still need players who can perform this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 What happened to Jordan Bowery? I thought he looked alright at the end of last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 We all know progression is done in increments ...not a foul swoop. I think it is pretty obvious we need a no 10 with good feet , close control is essential and unless yo get lucky, no reference to "daft punk"...you have to spend a bit more than 2-4mill more like 8-10mill. Can't we find a Luc Nilis on loan. The danger with writing these sort of things is the club look at it with a financial bias.... We look at it with a footballing bias. Hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Who says an am wouldn't fit in our side. We use three midfielders. We need a central midfielder with flair and creativity who will work hard and defend. Kiyotake does this and would easily work I our side. We had it confirmed we enquired but was too expensive. Popov confirmed our interest also. A creative hardworking midfielder on the cheap is what Lambert wants. They are hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Sometimes the big picture has to be seen. The club need to see the effect that such a player, (being the right one of Course) will have on our club. We know its easier said than done.... But it is nice to know, that the club think like us if that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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