peterms Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Now I know you are not stupid so have to assume its a bit of feigned ignorance in an attempt to laugh at my expenseI made the same mistake as you...the joke's on both of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Great news, Dave is demanding a minute silence. No not that one, this one Margaret Thatcher: Dave Whelan calls for minute's silence Wigan chairman Dave Whelan has called for one minute's silence to be held before his side's FA Cup semi-final to mark the death of Baroness Thatcher. The former prime minister died in London on Monday, aged 87, after suffering a stroke. But the Premier League and Football League will not be asking clubs to mark Lady Thatcher's death at their upcoming fixtures. "We owe Mrs Thatcher a minute's silence," Whelan told BBC Sport. As well as Premier League and Football League games this weekend, the FA Cup semi-finals take place at Wembley, which come under the auspices of the Football Association. Wigan meet Millwall on Saturday. It is understood the Football Association has no plans at present to mark Lady Thatcher's death. "It is not my decision, it is for the FA to decide, but I would be in favour of wearing an armband out of respect to Mrs Thatcher," Whelan said. "We have to say thank you very much for the services the former PM has given us." Lady Thatcher was Conservative prime minister from 1979 to 1990 and won three successive general elections and Whelan admitted he had huge admiration for her. “Football was in a bad way when she was prime minister, and we saw all the changes in her time, and they should pay tribute to that” Richard TraceySports minister under Margaret Thatcher "Mrs Thatcher was a very, very special lady and a very special prime minister," he said. "After Winston Churchill, we have probably had two or three really good PMs and she was definitely one of those. I only met her once and I just thought she was a fantastic lady, the country could do with another lady, another PM who can do what she did. We shall sadly miss her." One minute silences were not held in the Premier League when former Prime Ministers James Callaghan and Edward Heath died, although respects were paid after the death of the Queen Mother. It will be left to individual clubs to decide whether they want to pay tribute. And Whelan said he could not understand why large sections of the population, especially in the north of England, did not want to mark her death. "I can't really, no. She took on the mining unions, whether they were right or whether they were wrong, it's history now. She took them on and took them on for the good of the country," he added. Manchester United opted not to have a one-minute's silence prior to Monday's derby defeat by Manchester City and Whelan, who was travelling back from a holiday in Barbados at the time, said he disagreed with that view. "I think that's wrong," he said. "The politicians, you get them on the left or on the right, when they are PM, they are PM. They are acting for our country, representing our country with politics on one side. Whoever it is, whatever political views they have, I would always support the PM. "To have no recognition of Mrs Thatcher last night is not right and very disrespectful." Margaret Thatcher's former sports minister, Richard Tracey, also disagreed with the decision to not have a minute's silence at Old Trafford. He told BBC Radio 5 live: "Frankly I think it's rather cheap that they decided not to show any sort of respect for her, because, to be honest, she did really deliver what football is today, particularly with the Taylor report, and the all-seater stadia. "Football was in a bad way when she was prime minister, and we saw all the changes in her time, and they should pay tribute to that." The county cricket season starts on Wednesday but so far no team has any plans to mark the former prime minister's passing. However the England and Wales Cricket Board is advising counties to fly flags at half-mast on Wednesday, 17 April - the day of the funeral. An ECB spokesman said: "Given that it will be a 'ceremonial funeral' and having taken advice from government, it is recommended that the appropriate protocol would be for first-class counties to fly flags within their venues at half-mast on the day of the funeral itself, rather than holding a minute's silence." Meanwhile, Premiership Rugby have said that they will leave the 12 clubs to decide if they wish to hold a minute's silence. No clubs have informed them that they will do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 A minute's silence would probably only be respected at a fox hunt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Yeah Mr Whelan - a minutes silence for a PM that thought it was right and proper to cage fans, seriously considered electric fences around grounds etc and on who's "watch" saw some of the worst disasters ever to hit football. Excuse me if I whistle a silly tune during it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted April 9, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2013 The costs to the public will still be significant. Considering the current trend for cost savings etc why the hell are the public paying for what is obviously a very rich woman with very rich friends to be chucked on the fire? The disruption on that day in London will be significant and we know ho wthe Gvmt like to quantify that - I remember the "outrage" when people were protesting about Fees and extra taxes etc. She should have had a private funeral paid for by her family like most people have to do. If some of Joe Public are so idiotic as to want to be there then so be it, but let them do so without disruption to those trying to work Can't really argue with any of that .. If it was standard procedure for ALL ex PM's to be buried in this way it would be fair enough, but otherwise a private ceremony should have been the way to do it 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Personally I think a minutes silence would be a ridiculous move, as I said earlier in the thread from what I have come to know about her during my life I am in the ''against her camp'' and am not particularly affected in any way that she is dead, the boo's would ring out around pretty much every ground in the country couldn't they do a shared minutes applause, clap in celebration of her life and if you are more inclined to then by all means clap and cheer at the fact that she aint breathing any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilchard Posted April 9, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2013 When even Liverpool fans don't want to hold a minutes silence, it's pretty obvious it's not a good idea. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 The costs of this funeral are **** outrageous. As for the queen and the Greek going, odd move , hopefully this will start to reverse the recent love in with The Royals . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 How about a minute's cheering? Or Champagne cork popping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 When even Liverpool fans don't want to hold a minutes silence, it's pretty obvious it's not a good idea. This has got to be the ultimate dilema for a 'pool fan. A bloody good chance to mourn, wear an arm band and put some shirts by some gates....but it's Thatcher. It's like when you finally find that porn picture that's spot on for your needs and in your heart of hearts you know it's probably a man. What the heck do you do? Funeral should go to the cheapest tenderer, preferably an overseas company. It's how she liked things done. I can only presume the proposal of a minutes silence at the football is somebody's idea of mischief. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I wonder whether I will get a minutes silence when I die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Maybe it's all the happiness, suddenly abroad for some reason? The other place I hang on the web has never been so united in joy. I think they must be fractious and opinionated doctors & dentists & academics. That's judging by the elegant prose... and the amount of money they're prepared to splash on average LPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Well she'd been living at The Ritz since Xmas , as you do. Surely her family can foot the **** funeral bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 This has got to be the ultimate dilema for a 'pool fan. A bloody good chance to mourn, wear an arm band and put some shirts by some gates....but it's Thatcher. It's like when you finally find that porn picture that's spot on for your needs and in your heart of hearts you know it's probably a man. What the heck do you do? me myself I would find a more reliable porn site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Since Judy Garland is no longer with us, Leslie Phillips should strike up the crowd in Traf Square. A 2013 House of Commons note on state funerals details some of the costs of the Queen Mother's ceremonial funeral in 2002.... Policing costs were £4.3m, of which £2.3m were opportunity costs (costs that would be incurred anyway if staff were assigned to other operations) They're going to need to up that a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 The costs of this funeral are **** outrageous. We should take Ken Loach's advice: Let's privatise her funeral. Put it out to tender and accept the cheapest bid. It's what she would have wanted. That's a great idea. I'd certainly tender for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 That's a great idea. I'd certainly tender for it. After all "What people want is competition!" - *David Cameron She shouldn't have it any other way. *talking about the NHS - the prick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 So, I've been reading about Thatcher in an attempt to understand the contempt that many have for her. I'm not politically inclined, I see little to no difference between one monkey to another. I believe politics is an elitist, closed shop and politicians are all in it for their own selfish purposes and their egos. With that in mind, please humour me and help me understand why: 1) Emasculating the trade unions was a bad thing. 2) Privatisation is an entirely bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 2) Privatisation is an entirely bad thing. This question is quicker to answer you if you reverse it. It's a bit like pure maths. Which privatised industry has worked out better for the vast majority? Arguably telecoms. Which ones have worked out worse for the vast majority? The rest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) 2) Privatisation is an entirely bad thing. This question is quicker to answer you if you reverse it. It's a bit like pure maths. Which privatised industry has worked out better for the vast majority? Arguably telecoms. Which ones have worked out worse for the vast majority? The rest. That's actually applied maths (not pure maths) Edited April 9, 2013 by RunRickyRun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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