veloman Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Bloody excellent IMO and a great number. However, I wonder if the lady plays the pink piccolo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 As a non musician can some one explain Bass guitar to me ... it just sorta looks like they make it up as they go along ... obviously it has structure and what not.... I love listening to isolated tracks on you tube and this is a prime example It sounds nothing like the whole song when pieced together with the other instruments and I’d kinda struggle to work out how he could play that the same way twice in a row ... I mean this in an admiration way btw .. sorta of a how the heck did they come up with that !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 A great rock bass player IMO. So for something a bit different on bass try this ; 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: can some one explain Bass guitar to me ... it just sorta looks like they make it up as they go along ... obviously it has structure and what not Rhythm section. Drums + Bass guitar - they're not (usually) part of the melody, but without them.... On their own they are kind of like you say, structure, but without that structure there's nothing to hang the rest on. s'how I look at it anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post il_serpente Posted January 6, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2018 Bass guitars are just low cost versions of guitars. Because they only have 4 strings instead of 6, they cost about 2/3 as much as a proper guitar. With only 2/3 of the strings they can also only play 8 notes on the chromatic scale while the proper guitar can play all 12. It was decided long ago that the missing 4 notes would be less noticeable in the lower register, so the bass plays an octave or more lower than a guitar. Drums, of course, can play even fewer notes than the bass guitar. Because they're both deficient, notewise, drums and bass were grouped together in the rhythm section, kind of a "reserve team", musically speaking. Sometimes during a song, by pure chance, the drums and bass will combine their limited ranges to provide the full 12 notes of the chromatic scale. When this happens you can usually see the bass player nod and wink at each other with a wry smile (if their hands were free they'd high five). It should be noted that some bass players play a six-string bass. They are ostracized by both bass players and guitarists as either cheats or cowards who are afraid to play a real guitar in the higher register where their deficiencies and mistakes would be more noticeable. I hope that clarifies it, @tonyh29 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 22 hours ago, tonyh29 said: As a non musician can some one explain Bass guitar to me ... it just sorta looks like they make it up as they go along ... obviously it has structure and what not.... I love listening to isolated tracks on you tube and this is a prime example It sounds nothing like the whole song when pieced together with the other instruments and I’d kinda struggle to work out how he could play that the same way twice in a row ... I mean this in an admiration way btw .. sorta of a how the heck did they come up with that !! I love listening to isolated tracks. You hear the song in a different light. I'm not going to pretend I know anything about music, but the bass is supposedly very important to the music. A great rhythm section is the foundations for a great rock band. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Bass and drums are the foundations of everything. If they're not on the money, everything else is gonna be a bit rubbish. Doesn't matter if it's flash or not, it's all about the timing! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 in the " more things I don't understand about music" theme .. someone with to much time on their hands has autotuned "Smells Like Teen Spirit" into a major key not sure I like it , but kinda interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 On 08/01/2018 at 01:23, MrDuck said: Bass and drums are the foundations of everything. If they're not on the money, everything else is gonna be a bit rubbish. Doesn't matter if it's flash or not, it's all about the timing! particularly drums 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Xann Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Find this guy to be slightly irritating in an 80s children's program sort of way, but he stays interesting enough not to get switched off. He posts quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 19:46, tonyh29 said: As a non musician can some one explain Bass guitar to me ... it just sorta looks like they make it up as they go along ... obviously it has structure and what not.... I love listening to isolated tracks on you tube and this is a prime example It sounds nothing like the whole song when pieced together with the other instruments and I’d kinda struggle to work out how he could play that the same way twice in a row ... I mean this in an admiration way btw .. sorta of a how the heck did they come up with that !! This is THE prime example of why he's just something else to me. He looks sooo bored while just pissing out some of the best rock basslines. At that level it's kinda like playing boring drums gets a bit boring so you need to do fills and then the fills actually become the rhythm. Just a more intricate or synchopated version of a flat 4 but you're still in 4/4. The Ox would get far too bored chugging on E basically. Also some might say he had to because Townsend liked chugging on chords and waving his hands in the air... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 23, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) On 05/01/2018 at 19:46, tonyh29 said: As a non musician can some one explain Bass guitar to me ... it just sorta looks like they make it up as they go along ... obviously it has structure and what not.... I love listening to isolated tracks on you tube and this is a prime example It sounds nothing like the whole song when pieced together with the other instruments and I’d kinda struggle to work out how he could play that the same way twice in a row ... I mean this in an admiration way btw .. sorta of a how the heck did they come up with that !! Going back to Tony's original question, I'll try and answer it. Basically it's all about scales. Whatever the key the song is in, only some notes 'sound right' in that particular key. The ones that don't are omitted, and what's left is a scale (the old 'do re me' thing). At any given moment in the song, the guitarists, pianists, etc. will be playing a chord, made up of a subset (typically three or four) of the notes in the appropriate scale. To fit in with this, the bassman will play one of the notes in the chord - usually the lowest (root) one, but it doesn't have to be. As the chords change, the bass player is essentially running up and down the scale. A simple bassline can just be a steady plod along with the drummer's rhythm, one root note per chord. But a more ambitious player (like the late Mr. Entwistle) can do more interesting stuff, still keeping to the beat, but playing more complex variations on the scale - often producing an interesting countermelody under the band's performance. So, he IS 'sort of' making it up as he goes along, but it can't just be random - he needs to know the chord sequence of the song, so he can select the right notes for his bassline. Does that help? Edited February 8, 2018 by mjmooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjmooney Posted February 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2018 What's Brian Eno doing in a musicians' thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, mjmooney said: What's Brian Eno doing in a musicians' thread? It's a creative dilemma, for sure. if only there were some sort of strategy for resolving this dilemma, mabe we could use that? [I've got this wierd pack of cards at home*, I suppose I could fish them out and see what turns up?] *no really, I do.they came with an album 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, blandy said: It's a creative dilemma, for sure. if only there were some sort of strategy for resolving this dilemma, mabe we could use that? [I've got this wierd pack of cards at home*, I suppose I could fish them out and see what turns up?] *no really, I do.they came with an album We could take Tiger Mountain with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 21 hours ago, mjmooney said: What's Brian Eno doing in a musicians' thread? That's a bit harsh. Pretty good with Roxy Music and inventive with 'Fripp and Eno' surely? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, veloman said: That's a bit harsh. Pretty good with Roxy Music and inventive with 'Fripp and Eno' surely? Mike's being deliberately 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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