TrentVilla Posted December 26, 2012 Moderator Share Posted December 26, 2012 I'd rather he never said it to be honest. He only has two alternatives. 1. Lambast the players which won't do any good with a team full of kids 2. Not talk to the press at all. If he does one he makes things worse, he does the other and the press spell blood in the water and the pressure starts to build ahead of a window in which he will hopefully be trying to attract players to the club. As I said, there isn't much else he can say. I don't for one minute believe he is happy with the players performances today and if he is then we might as well sack him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I just don't understand how we are more worse off in points than last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 26, 2012 Moderator Share Posted December 26, 2012 I just don't understand how we are more worse off in points than last season. We've lost more games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Let's not forget we lost 5-0 to city and 4-1 to Southampton. Never been this disgusted with our defended so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I just don't understand how we are more worse off in points than last season. Because last season we were ok (results wise) in the first half. It was the second half where things got really bad. I think it will be the opposite this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 We've lost more games. So where does the problem lie? How can Lambert be doing worse than Mcleish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Because last season we were ok (results wise) in the first half. It was the second half where things got really bad. I think it will be the opposite this season. Hopefully. A small positive this season is that we have been awful, yet we are still 16th. Really hope Lambert can turn it around and is given the funds to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 He only has two alternatives. 1. Lambast the players which won't do any good with a team full of kids 2. Not talk to the press at all. I don't for one minute believe he is happy with the players performances today and if he is then we might as well sack him now. or .... 3rd) don't mention anything about the effort because it was evidently not there. He could've said everything else about them being young etc fine but he isn't helping himself when he says can't fault the effort. I agree with the last bit though, I doubt he is happy about it (well atleast I hope so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 26, 2012 Moderator Share Posted December 26, 2012 So where does the problem lie? How can Lambert be doing worse than Mcleish? I don't think he is but as Mantis says under McLeish things were getting worse all the time, despite the last two results I think Lambert will take us forward. That though is dependant upon Lerner a man I have little or no faith in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 26, 2012 Moderator Share Posted December 26, 2012 or .... 3rd) don't mention anything about the effort because it was evidently not there. He could've said everything else about them being young etc fine but he isn't helping himself when he says can't fault the effort. I agree with the last bit though, I doubt he is happy about it (well atleast I hope so). Fair point. I didn't hear the interview, I was just assuming he was asked a leading question ie, "where you happy with the effort of your players?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 These McLeish comparisons are ridiculous. We have not looked anything like a McLeish side for most of the season. Oh yes we **** have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Oh yes we **** have Not most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 He only has two alternatives. 1. Lambast the players which won't do any good with a team full of kids 2. Not talk to the press at all. If he does one he makes things worse, he does the other and the press spell blood in the water and the pressure starts to build ahead of a window in which he will hopefully be trying to attract players to the club. As I said, there isn't much else he can say. I don't for one minute believe he is happy with the players performances today and if he is then we might as well sack him now. Spot on Trent. I am just back from VP and quite simply it was again men against boys. Lambert though has to at least take some of the blame for that as it was his choice to go down the route he has in terms of the the vast majority of the players he has signed. However he has not been helped by the loss of Gabby, Vlaar and although not everyone's cup of tea Dunne. You can also throw Bent into the mix although he was not being used for the most part when fit. If you are going to go with a team full of young and inexperienced players at this level then they need to be an exceptionally talented bunch. Unfortunately our lot aren't .For the most part you can't fault their attitudes as they will give you 100% but they need help whilst they are still developing and finding their feet at this level. Lambert needs Gabby and Vlaar back asap and needs to make better use of Ireland and Bent when he is fit. He also needs to sign 2 or 3 players of proven quality at this level in January. It is no good him signing players that are going to take a dozen or so games to find their feet. If he isn't given the right backing from Lerner and/or doesn't get things right in the transfer window then we will continue to struggle and could well drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I never thought Lambert would have us on less points than McLeish did going into the new year. He's been a huge disappointment, as have the players of this once proud club. I've never been so depressed about where our future lies. However the blame firmly lies with Lerner and his fat ginger puppet - the downward spiral of the past three years is down to their shambolic running of this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Under houllier and mcleish we lost a fair few games due to shocking defending at set peices, now we look quite soild at defending these but can't defend when players run at us. It's.like watching a dog with 2 dicks trying to work out which one to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquaddieVilla Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Looking at the players we have at the club, forgetting loans & injuries looking at experience that we already have Given, Lowton, Vlaar, Dunne, Stevens Agbonlahor ,Westwood, Makoun, N'Zogbia Ireland, Benteke/Bent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 You know, that was terrible. Not sure how many times these players can take being setup to get kicked in the balls by top teams, not sure how much of it I can take. I hate to say it but Lambert needs to play to frustrate top six teams, hit em on the counter. We just are not good enough to go at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Dunne, Bent, Makoun and N'Zogbia will never really feature for this club again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I just don't understand how we are more worse off in points than last season. We are worse than last year, simples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquaddieVilla Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Dunne, Bent, Makoun and N'Zogbia will never really feature for this club again. Just don't see where our next points are coming from, we could drop like a stone, injuries my ass from these overpaid donkeys who want Xmas off, its a joke, play or do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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