VillaChris Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I've long thought Celtic but only if Fraser Forster leaves. Hull signed McGregor and Steve Harper so no chance him going there. And if he leaves it will be on loan as who will a) pay us any sort of fee for him and commit to paying him his 50-60k wages. That 5 year deal was madness, we really should've just offered the 5 year deal to Friedel instead of giving him just the 3 and thinking he'd be ready to retire once that was up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Looks like we are stuck with him for another 2 years. I wonder if there are Job Descriptions in players contracts. Like could we have him helping out the grounds men cutting the grass and working in the canteen? Maybe packing and unpacking the team bus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 5, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2013 we really should've just offered the 5 year deal to Friedel instead of giving him just the 3 and thinking he'd be ready to retire once that was up. You would have been happy with a 45 year old keeper? ....Further more you would have been happy IF MCLEISH was happy with a 45 year old keeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth10 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) we really should've just offered the 5 year deal to Friedel instead of giving him just the 3 and thinking he'd be ready to retire once that was up. You would have been happy with a 45 year old keeper? ....Further more you would have been happy IF MCLEISH was happy with a 45 year old keeper? I think what he was trying to say was we should have offered Friedel the 5 year deal at the time he initially signed, therefore it would now be expired. All very speculative however! I think what he was trying to say was we should have offered Friedel the 5 year deal at the time he initially signed, therefore it would now be expired. All very speculative however! Edited August 5, 2013 by Mammoth10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 5, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2013 we really should've just offered the 5 year deal to Friedel instead of giving him just the 3 and thinking he'd be ready to retire once that was up. You would have been happy with a 45 year old keeper? ....Further more you would have been happy IF MCLEISH was happy with a 45 year old keeper? I think what he was trying to say was we should have offered Friedel the 5 year deal at the time he initially signed, therefore it would now be expired. All very speculative however! I think what he was trying to say was we should have offered Friedel the 5 year deal at the time he initially signed, therefore it would now be expired. All very speculative however! Ah OK! Still it was a gamble offering a 37 year old a three year deal, 5 years would have been madness at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yeah I know but I guess that was ;part of the thinking behind the madness of giving Given 5 years, just give him one straight 5 year deal instead of giving Friedel 3 thinking he'd be ready to retire once it expired and then having to come up with another contract offer for a 40 year old. The obvious problem is Given doesn't have the durability of Friedel and I think he's been knackred fitness wise since he did his groin against Man. United in the December of his first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 If we're stuck with him, why not give him a goalkeeper coaching role? Of course we don't know what his attitude is like but I've heard he's very arrogant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 If we're stuck with him, why not give him a goalkeeper coaching role? Of course we don't know what his attitude is like but I've heard he's very arrogant. Exstreamly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 End of the day Given does actually want to play football so I do have sympathy as he could've just done a Cudcini or Ross Turnbull and just stayed number 2 at City, played some of the cup games and added a few medals to this cabinet. He came here and it hasn't worked out. I was surprised McLeish went for him tbh, I thought at the time Ben Foster would be nailed on to join aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 End of the day Given does actually want to play football so I do have sympathy as he could've just done a Cudcini or Ross Turnbull and just stayed number 2 at City, played some of the cup games and added a few medals to this cabinet. He came here and it hasn't worked out. I was surprised McLeish went for him tbh, I thought at the time Ben Foster would be nailed on to join aswell. After tapping up McLeish there was no way they would have sold us foster. I never rated given even in his pomp at Newcastle, a fine reflex keeper and that's it, madness to sign him for £6million on a 5 year deal on a wage that's the GDP of a small country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Mcleish cost this club tens of millions. Worst appointment in the clubs history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 End of the day Given does actually want to play football so I do have sympathy as he could've just done a Cudcini or Ross Turnbull and just stayed number 2 at City, played some of the cup games and added a few medals to this cabinet. He came here and it hasn't worked out. I was surprised McLeish went for him tbh, I thought at the time Ben Foster would be nailed on to join aswell. £6million on a 5 year deal on a wage that's the GDP of a small country. I thought he cost less than that. Jesus H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Mcleish cost this club tens of millions. Worst appointment in the clubs history. Yep, Hutton, Insomnia, some cracking signings and real value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Google says £4.5million, still a lot for a keeper on the way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Mcleish cost this club tens of millions. Worst appointment in the clubs history. He never managed our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 6, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2013 I've heard he's very arrogant. I'd be very interested to hear where you've heard this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooh-Ah Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I've heard he's very arrogant. I'd be very interested to hear where you've heard this. As would I. Everything I've heard about the guy suggests he's an absolute gent. Not that it proves very much but he was on a stag in my hometown last year and my friend works in the hotel they stayed in. She said he was extremely nice. Didn't Lambert even call him a "model pro" the other night? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I've heard he's very arrogant. I'd be very interested to hear where you've heard this. As would I. Everything I've heard about the guy suggests he's an absolute gent. Not that it proves very much but he was on a stag in my hometown last year and my friend works in the hotel they stayed in. She said he was extremely nice. Didn't Lambert even call him a "model pro" the other night? Killarney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooh-Ah Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Shay Is a gent ..could still do a job in the team ..just doesn't seem to be in lamberts plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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