KHV Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I agree with those who say we would have lost had Lambert not made those changes. It was a bit reckless I thought going with a 3-5-2, using Herd as a CB having not played for 4 weeks and not really providing any leadership in the middle of the park. The QPR forwards were rampaging for the first 25 minutes of the second half and we were lucky not to concede a couple and lose track of the game. So while yes the substitutions were largely negative they were designed to rectify some pretty massive tactical errors by Lambert and once we reverted to four at the back we started to take control of the game again. In all, very few players really did themselves any justice. Guzan was superb, Westwood and Baker very solid and Benteke was always a threat but was left isolated way too often. Holman took his goal well but that was just about it for him. FWIW I thought Derick Williams looks a very tidy player - tall, athletic, pacy and quite composed on the ball. Very unlucky not to have earned a free kick deep in their half too. In the end, we probably didn't deserve the point but it is a point all the same, keeping us floating above the bottom three. Lambert needs to stop tinkering with the lineup though and let the lads start forming as a solid unit. I agree with your last line, there is no continuity at all. he keeps tinkering with formations, shape and personel. At times we look confused, so far this year we have seen 4-5-1, 4-4-2 diamond, 4-2-3-1, 3-5-2. the midfield constantly changes too. I dont think it helps at all, at time in the second half of games our shape goes out of the window, at one point in the second half we had a bank of 5 and a bank of 4 that were within 10 yards of each other and they were only the width of the 18 yard box, one pass to the full back out wide and they were able to put the ball in the box 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 its what he did at norwich, even when they were winning he was changing the team and formation, he isnt going to stop doing that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 its what he did at norwich, even when they were winning he was changing the team and formation, he isnt going to stop doing that now. We've gone from three previous managers who all didn't change formations pretty much at all to the one who keeps changing them constantly which is frustating even when 4-5-1 clearly works much better than any other formation we've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 In Lambert we trust. Sorry absolutely no at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutherland Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I wouldnt trust lambert with my sky+ remote... Guaranteed program clash!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Awful second half, totally battered. We looked like Brazil for the first 10 minutes though. Everything seemed to come off for us. Benteke impressed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Sorry absolutely no at the moment. So what do I do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 So what do I do then? Ignore his drivel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Ignore his drivel? You're probably right! I Like Lambert and I thought the subs today actually gave us more of a foothold in a game we were getting battered in. Admittedly I'd have liked to have seen Ireland at some point but Delph (who I don't rate) didn't do too badly. QPR have some good players and Redknapp will get them playing again. Today wasn't that bad of a point. We do need to go and beat Stoke though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Sorry absolutely no at the moment. Yep we need, Guardiola or Ancelloti or Mourinho and just by the mere fact that they are standing on the touchline we will win games. God, Lambert is so crap at standing on the touchline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 How is leaving Bent out of the team working out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 How is leaving Bent out of the team working out? Your sig answers your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Really decent point. Lots of fans prior to this were saying they would be happy with a point there. I did to see any posts saying they wold be happy with a point but we had to play brilliantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 not losing to qpr was the most important thing, failing to beat stoke though and we'll look back hoping we'd gone for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefa3011 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Phew, that was a hard earned point! I thought we sat too deep in the second half, but fair play to the lads, they held firm when others may have crumbled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Stoke are very sound defensively...we'll struggle to score against them, especially with Bent considered not good enough to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Stoke are very sound defensively...we'll struggle to score against them, especially with Bent considered not good enough to play. indeed he is apparently shit, he only scores goals dont you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DotsandCrosses Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I did a bit of analysis on tonight's game here, but long story short: A three man defence was an interesting experiment that worked out... ish. Playing three centre-backs against one striker just meant we didn't have enough players in attack. It's nice to know we can successfully play it though.Ashley Westwood is an excellent player, and our most vital midfielder. We still need Ireland to balance the midfield, though.Agbonlahor can't be trusted to defend his full-back.Guzan is a tank, and we're lucky he didn't leave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 We were shit today, but got a point. Ireland would have dominated from the start. and Holman is really starting to get on my nerves. He scored a goal, well done. But everything he did after that was shocking. Giving the ball away, being turned way too easily and blasting shots over the bar. Absolutely abysmal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 1, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2012 Match of the Day presenter Gary Lineker on Twitter: "MOTD running order; ManU/Rea, WHU/Che, Ars/Swa, Ful/Tot, ManC/Eve, WBA/Sto, Liv/Sou, QPR/AV Read 'em and weep." Surprise, surprise. Wouldn't have been that way if QPR had won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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