Big_John_10 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 we have the 30th highest youth productivity for players in the top 5 rated leagues in the world (England,Spain,France, germany and italy) the 3rd best in England after Manchester UNited and Arsenal. ahead of teams with famous youth systems like Auxerre. River Plate and Ajax and major clubs like Inter, PSG as well. the youth system is best thing the club has And is it really helping? When we were challenging 4th we were producing players not good enough for that standard and now as we fight relegation we seem to be producing players barely good enough to help us with that. We've managed to produce one very good player and a few ok ones. Don't really see how this fantastic youth set up is helping us. We produce some quality moaners. Haha how clever. Shame you're not smart enough to actually put forward an argument. I'm sure you're proud though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 we have the 30th highest youth productivity for players in the top 5 rated leagues in the world (England,Spain,France, germany and italy) the 3rd best in England after Manchester UNited and Arsenal. ahead of teams with famous youth systems like Auxerre. River Plate and Ajax and major clubs like Inter, PSG as well. the youth system is best thing the club has And is it really helping? When we were challenging 4th we were producing players not good enough for that standard and now as we fight relegation we seem to be producing players barely good enough to help us with that. We've managed to produce one very good player and a few ok ones. Don't really see how this fantastic youth set up is helping us. We produce some quality moaners. Haha. How true. Possibly the finest moaners in all of football. Mind you, one of 'em's sure to come along and moan that that's not an argument and hit you with an insult or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted April 1, 2013 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2013 Don't really see how this fantastic youth set up is helping us. In the future? There are one or two in the team for this that have got a chance. Today? Baker, Bannan, Agbonlahor and Weimann. This season? Those four plus Clark, Albrighton, Lichaj and Herd. Financially? Since 2006 - Whittingham £350k, Davis £4m, Ridgewell £2m, Cahill £5m, Moore £3m, Gardner £3.5m, Hog £300k, Lowry £250k - that's over £18m. So, about a third of our squad and around £3m a year is how it's helping us. Tony McAndrew is a genius - we should treasure him. The measure of a good youth set up is that it makes the best of what it has - McAndrew has been developing players on to good careers for a decade - if we're lucky, we might stumble upon a very special talent, because that's how it happens, if you could pick those special talents at 13 then they'd all be at Utd, but it's luck, Rooney's just appear - every now and then if you're lucky, they just appear - the trick is to be ready and to know how to make prospects into players for when the time comes - for me, we have the best man in the business for doing that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 So, about a third of our squad and around £3m a year is how it's helping us. We're seriously close to going down because most of them are currently not good enough to perform at this level. And £3 million a year while not to be sniffed at is hardly the kind of money that can then be spent on quality players. We keep developing very average players with only a small amount being good enough to be considered good premiership players. It's hardly the stuff of dreams and like I said there's not much to show its helping the first team. Maybe the next batch will be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just read that UEFA are considering launching their own alternative version of this tournament next season - and guess what, they'll only be inviting the 32 teams that qualified for the group stages of the Champions League. I had a feeling this couldn't last - I mean, who wants sport breaking out in the middle of their TV show - it's bad for business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just read that UEFA are considering launching their own alternative version of this tournament next season - and guess what, they'll only be inviting the 32 teams that qualified for the group stages of the Champions League. I had a feeling this couldn't last - I mean, who wants sport breaking out in the middle of their TV show - it's bad for business. Typical of platini et al to ruin something else..hope it doesn't happen and that we still get in next yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 So, about a third of our squad and around £3m a year is how it's helping us. We're seriously close to going down because most of them are currently not good enough to perform at this level. And £3 million a year while not to be sniffed at is hardly the kind of money that can then be spent on quality players. We keep developing very average players with only a small amount being good enough to be considered good premiership players. It's hardly the stuff of dreams and like I said there's not much to show its helping the first team. Maybe the next batch will be different. Of course most of them are average, by definition, the majority of players will be average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just read that UEFA are considering launching their own alternative version of this tournament next season - and guess what, they'll only be inviting the 32 teams that qualified for the group stages of the Champions League. I had a feeling this couldn't last - I mean, who wants sport breaking out in the middle of their TV show - it's bad for business. So not content with ruining top level football, they now want to **** up youth football? This could be the final straw for my interest in professional football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Yes, if that goes ahead Aston Villa and other clubs outside the big 4 stand no chance picking up the top youth talent. They'll want to go to the club that plays the most competitive youth football. Currently that's Aston Villa. If they ban Villa from the successor tournament then that basically kills our academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 1, 2013 Here There appears to be a little bit of pressure from UEFA being exerted on teams to pick one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Football is so broken it's unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) What is the official Aston Villa position on this? It's just a scheme to allow the biggest clubs to hoover up the youth talent so that they keep their position at the top. It's absurd that if Aston Villa wins NextGen the best youth team on the continent will not be allowed to participate in the UEFA competition. We should play in the youth Champions League and those bad youth teams of Champions League teams should not be in the competition. This rule as to who's in and who's out of the UEFA league allows Arsene Wenger to tell our best prospects, like 15 year old Daniel Crowley, you can only get Champions League youth football at Arsenal. Come to Arsenal and play Champions League youth football, Villa's academy will retard your development. Edited April 1, 2013 by Con Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just read that UEFA are considering launching their own alternative version of this tournament next season - and guess what, they'll only be inviting the 32 teams that qualified for the group stages of the Champions League. I had a feeling this couldn't last - I mean, who wants sport breaking out in the middle of their TV show - it's bad for business. So not content with ruining top level football, they now want to **** up youth football? This could be the final straw for my interest in professional football. If this locks out Aston Villa youth from top flight youth football, kills our academy and with it any hope of challenging the 'big clubs' with the advantage our youth system gives us, then Barcelona has a new supporter. I'll still be a Villa supporter but Barcelona has almost the same colours as Villa and have Messi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Gutted. Imagine seeing the likes of bannan and albrighton struggling to get in the Chelsea team instead of here. Heartbreaking stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 1, 2013 Anyways - onto the match. Chelsea have got a very good side, this will be tricky and we'll need good performances from our better players - Grealish will need to be at the top of his game and Carruthers will need to watch his discipline. We'll need Donacien strong and Robinson and Burke to work their socks off - but we can do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 So the youth teams will be tied to the fate of their senior teams ? What a load of bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 1, 2013 Watkins, Webb, Kinsella, Calder, Donacien, Lewis, Barton, Carruthers, Robinson, Burke, Grealish. Subs: Bateman, Grant, Toner, Crooks, Lyden, Abdo, Crowley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakagom Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Stream for the final if anyone needs it: http://88.80.15.211/b00ha/20130331/vv515847fdc923f773649909-552908.html Showing the semifinal highlights right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 1, 2013 The commentators are slaughtering us in the pre-game stuff - we robbed Sporting, we're rubbish and the ref put us through apparently. Its like Chelsea TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just seen the highlights of semi, we got totally outplayed...what a disgrace the sporting players were man handling the ref after the pen..oh well good luck to the lads in the final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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