villa89 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Michael118 said: You don't care that most people thought he was poor for us but he's looking more than decent for Burnley less than 1 season after leaving? Only in your opinion. In reality he can't get into the first team and would be their 4th choice CM if Hendrick was fit. And that's for a team that will struggle to get 40 points in the premier league this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Ones in bold aren't right. Clark looked good at Champ level> let's see how he does with a season in the Prem, the same level he looked absolute toilet for us. Personally don't think he did - said at the time it was a mistake to let him go. He was part of the suffering i.e: "has been here a long time and we're shit". More than capable Premier League defender, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Michael118 said: You don't care that most people thought he was poor for us but he's looking more than decent for Burnley less than 1 season after leaving? Ciaran Clark, Leandro Bacuna, Marc Albrighton, Idrissa Gueye, Ryan Bertrand, Scott Sinclair, Adama Traore and others have a similar story. Is he really looking "more than decent", though? He's not playing for Burnley that match and I refuse to believe that you're watching them when he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Michael118 said: It's a main point because that's how I saw it and it's the way it turned out. Everyone is aware of it now but I was being shot down for it when I said it originally. The phrase "Throw enough shit..." comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 59 minutes ago, bobzy said: Is he really looking "more than decent", though? He's not playing for Burnley that match and I refuse to believe that you're watching them when he does. Their fans seem to think so. I've only seen him play for them once. I saw him play enough for us though to not be surprised at all by the positive reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) . Edited September 20, 2017 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, a m ole said: The phrase "Throw enough shit..." comes to mind. Right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Michael118 said: Their fans seem to think so. Just the few you've managed to dig out that support your (flawed) opinion. More importantly it's not a view shared by the manager who considers him 4th choice for midfield. He wasn't any good at Villa and he's still not any good at Burnley. Q.E.D. Edited September 20, 2017 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) 38 minutes ago, villa89 said: Just the few you've managed to dig out that support your (flawed) opinion. More importantly it's not a view shared by the manager who considers him 4th choice for midfield. He wasn't any good at Villa and he's still not any good at Burnley. Q.E.D. There has hardly been anything negative written about him. Dyche has had only positive things to say about him and it's not unusual for a new player to be eased into a team especially when they are settled and have been winning. They are 7th in the Premier League. Edited September 20, 2017 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I think they're managing him perfectly to be honest from what I've been reading. I can see him playing a bigger role as the season progresses and I think it will suit him being gradually introduced like that. I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the season he's a regular starter for them and considered more widely to be a very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Michael118 said: I think they're managing him perfectly to be honest from what I've been reading. I can see him playing a bigger role as the season progresses and I think it will suit him being gradually introduced like that. I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the season he's a regular starter for them and considered more widely to be a very good player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 45 minutes ago, Michael118 said: I think they're managing him perfectly to be honest from what I've been reading. I can see him playing a bigger role as the season progresses and I think it will suit him being gradually introduced like that. I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the season he's a regular starter for them and considered more widely to be a very good player. You make him out to be 18 year old wonderkid. He about 10 years older and crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2017 49 minutes ago, Michael118 said: I think they're managing him perfectly to be honest from what I've been reading. I can see him playing a bigger role as the season progresses and I think it will suit him being gradually introduced like that. I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the season he's a regular starter for them and considered more widely to be a very good player. Please stop. It's embarrassing. You've admitted that you don't even watch their games, so how on Earth can you know that they're managing him perfectly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 32 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Please stop. It's embarrassing. You've admitted that you don't even watch their games, so how on Earth can you know that they're managing him perfectly? He read it on Burnleytalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 "A few people on Burnleytalk rated him a 7 after a 15 minute cameo therefore I was right, ha suck it losers" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Plz lck dis tpic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 19 hours ago, Zatman said: You make him out to be 18 year old wonderkid. He about 10 years older and crap By all accounts, Burnley fans seem to rate him and think he should have more playing time - so Michael may well be correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 18 minutes ago, bobzy said: By all accounts, Burnley fans seem to rate him and think he should have more playing time - so Michael may well be correct. He said they were managing his game time well which is a weird statement about a player in his prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 23 hours ago, Zatman said: You make him out to be 18 year old wonderkid. He about 10 years older and crap A good manager treats every player carefully and with consideration. Westwood coming off a horror run here and no doubt lacking confidence will surely benefit from being introduced gradually into a stable and winning team with solid players around him under a manager that's behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/21/2017 at 01:34, Stevo985 said: Please stop. It's embarrassing. You've admitted that you don't even watch their games, so how on Earth can you know that they're managing him perfectly? "From what I've been reading" and also from how I see him as a player and personality. I don't know they're managing him perfectly. Maybe it's not by design but I definitely think easing him into it is a wise move and most of the other components are there for him to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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