Woodytom Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Why are you obsessed with this ticking malarky? All I said was he did well tonight. I thought out of Sanchez, Cleverley and himself he performed the best. He worked well defensively and was the only midfielder who played anything resembling a through ball to the strikers. He kept the ball as well as anybody (I haven't checked the stats but I'd guess apart from Cleverley he's probably our highest pass success tonight) and was more comfortable in possession than most of the team, something we're crying out for. I haven't said he was amazing or excellent or brilliant. I just expressed my opinion on a player. That opinion is he did well. I said the same thing in several other threads about other players. Is that OK? Or am I not allowed to compliment them either? You can compliment whoever you want! Am I not allowed to disagree? After all that's all I'm doing. With regards the 'ticking' marlarky. I'm not obsessed. However, I do find it quite strange that people (not necessarily you) use the phrase quite regular to support westwood's existence in the team. Yet when that is challenged (baring in mind were a team that doesn't tick), it falls on deaf ears. I just think it's a bit of a cop out phrase that nobody really knows the meaning of and is almost used as a way of excusing the fact that all he does, is keep the ball better than the players around him. Which again, is not something to be shouting about IMO. Westwood receives a lot of praise, but tbh, right now I don't feel any of them are really worthy of consistent praise. I'd like to actually see players taking responsibility and grabbing the bull by the horns and making something happen. Whether that be Westwood, or whoever I'm not bothered but it would take something like that for me to believe that a player is worthy of the accolades that Westwood receives on here by some. Like with quite a few things re aston villa, we seem to be settling for utter drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 24, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) You're allowed to disagree. I just find it amusing that I actually haven't commented on a Westwood performance for weeks, and ironically when I did I actually barely mentioned him and was actually posting in here to make a more general point about the midfield as a whole. Yet 3 minutes after I posted you produced an essay to tell me how wrong I was. You're allowed to, I just find it strange that you seem to have such a fierce dislike of anybody complimenting this guy. As for the ticking, you seem to be the person posting it over and over again. I imagine if you stopped, you wouldn't hear the phrase nearly as much. Edited November 25, 2014 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The ticking thing was mentioned about 2 years ago if I remember correctly. Don't look any further than yourself for this one woody to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 An essay? 3 lines. As for the ticking, mentioned 3 days ago Stefan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 25, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2014 OK, the post after was the one I was thinking of when I said essay. I was exagerrating. That was really beside the point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 A fierce dislike? Jesus. Quite enjoy the whole debate thing/nature if the forum. Especially when were able to do it in a mature manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Thought he was very good today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 25, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Edit Edited November 25, 2014 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 OK, the post after was the one I was thinking of when I said essay. I was exagerrating. That was really beside the point though. Well it wasn't, as you wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise. Madness if you see my posts as a fierce dislike towards you and others. You made a point at a time, where I happened to be online. I disagreed. It happens to be a point we disagree on a lot, and today was another chapter in that debate, given that Westwood was involved in another game. That is it. My posts might contain a little passion/frustration from all things villa right now, but there is certainly not dislike towards anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 25, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) OK, the post after was the one I was thinking of when I said essay. I was exagerrating. That was really beside the point though.Well it wasn't, as you wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise. Madness if you see my posts as a fierce dislike towards you and others. You made a point at a time, where I happened to be online. I disagreed. It happens to be a point we disagree on a lot, and today was another chapter in that debate, given that Westwood was involved in another game. That is it. My posts might contain a little passion/frustration from all things villa right now, but there is certainly not dislike towards anyone. I meant the word "essay" was beside the point. The point was the first compliment I pay Westwood in weeks was shot down within 3 minutes by you. And Just to clarify, I said you had a dislike of people complimenting Westwood. Not a dislike of the people themselves. And I stand by it. You seem to get very annoyed with any praise for him. That's fine. But it's not a debate anymore. Edited November 25, 2014 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 A fierce dislike. But anyway, it's untrue. Just enjoy the nature of the forum tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I don't see how anybody could enjoy saying how much they hate every aspect of the football club in every thread. But hey, that's your prerogative. If you enjoy that, go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I don't see how anybody could enjoy saying how much they hate every aspect of the football club in every thread. But hey, that's your prerogative. If you enjoy that, go ahead. No reply to the fact you were talking nonsense about me being the only one mentioning 'ticking'. Didn't think so. Instead more nonsense about something else that exists in your head. Not sure why I'm bothering but check the okore thread. The praise I've given Hutton and Clark tonight. In fact the praise I've just given the forum as that is aston villa. In fact, can you highlight where I state that I hate everything to do with aston villa in even one thread never mind all of them? Doubt it, because it's drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 You've said yourself you find it hard to find any positives in villa at all. Don't shoot the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 You've said yourself you find it hard to find any positives in villa at all. Don't shoot the messenger. ATM, and there is many that agree. However, that is very different to saying that I go in every thread saying I hate everything to do with aston villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 One of his better games yesterday I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 He's the only player in our midfield (inclusive of Delph) that is capable of making a first time pass to anyone and is also the only player who even bothers to try through balls; which is desperately needed when Gabby is your lone striker rather than Benteke. Still our best midfielder imo - but I'd like to see him played further forward. He's not strong enough defensively but is, technically, our best asset. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 He's a really good player, but needs players around him to compliment his skills. The reality is in Westwood, Delph, Cleverly and Sanchez, we have four midfielders who are more or less the same player, with slightly different attributes. Westwood reminds me of Joe Allen, except when Allen picks up the ball deep, he looks up to see Gerrard, Couthino, Sterling and Llana ahead of him, all moving off ball and looking to get in between the lines, not 2 players right beside him and a couple of statues out wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 25, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2014 Exact;y what I've been saying. Westwood isn't amazing, but i do think he's a good player. But our problem, irrelevant of what you think of Westwood, is that he and Cleverley are doign the same job. And when the other midfielder is Sanchez we're left with nobody attacking. We desperately need a more attacking midfielder to play alongside these guys, because I fully admit if Westwood is being relied upon to be the creative force in the side, he's not good enough at that for us to be anything other than crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I've been critical and believed cleverly would be a better player but Westwood was better than him last night. I don't think he's a good premiership player but he's performing better than those around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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