Pilchard Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 McLeish was the point in which the people in charge of the club gave the two fingers to the supporters. Having described the new manager as one who'd reflect the club, its values and be best fit with it and the fans, to bring in McLeish showed that either they didn't care, or they didn't understand even the most basic thing about the fan base. It started off their own downfall, and in a couple of years time when they aren't here anymore - whatever mess we end up in before the team is invested in again, that appointment will be seen as the thing that snowballed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillz Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 the Mcleish sage was horrid but its hard to pinpoint the absolute low during his time with the club as the whole year was terrible. The cup final losses to man U recently and in the FA cup a decade ago to Chelsea were hard as i though the club would finally get some silverware once more. The milner and Yorke sales were bad times to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71GunsND Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Got to be the Olaf/Enkelman saga game against BluScum when we got beat an i was watchin on bigscreen in a club with mainly Blunose supporters/customers....still have nightmares over that night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Most definitely Mcleish, just when I thought the nightmare was over as Houllier left too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 24, 2012 Moderator Share Posted August 24, 2012 When Father Christmas fell off the top of the Trinity Road stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-Copenhagen Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 When Dwight Yorke went Man Yoo, that was hard to take. The losses to bloose, especially the enckleman one, I punched the wall and put it through me old man werent impressed, said it 'was only a game, cant win em all', which made it even worse! And more recently, the Milner sale and MON exit! This goes for me as well + Barry forcing a sale, that hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa75 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 MON leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Sale of dwight is very high up there.. Weird one, but also Ugo, boateng and Southgate joining boro...not actually the players leaving but them all joining boro as they claimed they were showing more ambition than us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Both quite recent for me... Mcleish - it confirmed the owner no longer cared what the fans thought and that he'd given up even trying to be successful. Possibly this. 2nd would also be the fairly recent loss to the shit in the league cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 the Mcleish sage was horrid but its hard to pinpoint the absolute low during his time with the club as the whole year was terrible. The cup final losses to man U recently and in the FA cup a decade ago to Chelsea were hard as i though the club would finally get some silverware once more. The milner and Yorke sales were bad times to.I think the low point for me was around the Spurs/Man U surrenders in late November/early December. Our worst fears about McLeish had been confirmed yet his tenure hadn't gone on long enough nor were we low enough in the league at that point for his sacking to look inevitable. From then on I don't think I properly enjoyed the few victories we had and I'd also take some comfort in our defeats knowing that it'd probably push McLeish closer to the door. Not that I didn't want us to win mind you, but it isn't exactly nice when you win but feel empty inside because you know that word removed is still at the club. I'm also a young'un on this forum Mcleish was pretty bad. Also losing to the scum in the league cup, and then them going on to win it, I was so mad. When they scored that second goal in the final, I broke my remote control for my television, smashed it against my wall.Funnily enough I happened to accidentally burn my finger cooking that day. It left a mark that took like a year to properly go away so I would always be reminded of that horrible game. :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 The appointment of Alex McLeish as manager. I know it's fresh in the memory of a lot of us, but I genuinely cant think of anything that tops it in twenty years of being a Villa fan. I was gutted when Paul McGrath left the club even though I knew the time was right. I was gutted when Dwight Yorke left to join Manchester United. I was disappointed when players like Southgate and Ehiogu were allowed to leave and publicly said they left due to a lack of ambition. MON leaving was a major let down too, as were the sales of Gareth Barry and James Milner. But I always had hope that the people who left the club could be replaced by people just as good or better. I was too young to be aware of it at the time, but how many Villa fans were gutted when we sold Andy Gray to Wolves in 1979? Arguably our best player, it took a British record fee to make the move happen but I would imagine VillaTalk would have been raging had it been about at the time. The club spent the money from Gray on Des Bremner, Tony Morely, Kenny Swain & Peter Withe. The rest is history. We did the same with the Dwight Yorke money too, Dublin & Merson were excellent replacements for the same price. We even spent the Gareth Barry money on Stewart Downing who was excellent for us before he **** off to Liverpool and decided to be shit at football. So there is always hope when somebody leaves. But when McLeish arrived? That just struck me as a big "**** you" to the fans from the board. They were either totally incompetent (and they definitely had previous there with the Houllier farce) or they were trying their absolute hardest to drive down expectations from the fans that they were prepared to have a relegation battle over it. Why anybody would appoint a man with a reputation for playing shite football who had just been relegated for the second time in four seasons with a club that Villa fans universally hate for reasons other than those listed above is completely beyond my understanding. Again, it's worth stressing the fact that we got less points in 2011/12 under McLeish than Blackpool were relegated with in 2010/11, and we had a reputation as the most boring team in the entire league. **** knows how we stayed up. I'll probably never forgive Lerner or Faulkner for last season, and if they announced the were selling up tomorrow I'd be delighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 This thread. Can we possibly come up with anymore **** negative stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddiebear83 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Star players leave and get replaced (Dwight Yorke). Poor managers get appointed and get found out in the end (Alex McLeish). The worse for me has to be earlier this year when Stan was diagnosed with acute leukaemia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Neale Cooper never being fit enough to be a Villa legend. Brian Little retiring at 27. Alex Cropley being assaulted into a broken leg by Ally **** Brown of Olbiyun. Ron Saunders going to scum heath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond_Joe_Quimby Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I cried when i heard we'd lost to Penarol in the World Club Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 The appointment of Alex McLeish as manager. I know it's fresh in the memory of a lot of us, but I genuinely cant think of anything that tops it in twenty years of being a Villa fan. I was gutted when Paul McGrath left the club even though I knew the time was right. I was gutted when Dwight Yorke left to join Manchester United. I was disappointed when players like Southgate and Ehiogu were allowed to leave and publicly said they left due to a lack of ambition. MON leaving was a major let down too, as were the sales of Gareth Barry and James Milner. But I always had hope that the people who left the club could be replaced by people just as good or better. I was too young to be aware of it at the time, but how many Villa fans were gutted when we sold Andy Gray to Wolves in 1979? Arguably our best player, it took a British record fee to make the move happen but I would imagine VillaTalk would have been raging had it been about at the time. The club spent the money from Gray on Des Bremner, Tony Morely, Kenny Swain & Peter Withe. The rest is history. We did the same with the Dwight Yorke money too, Dublin & Merson were excellent replacements for the same price. We even spent the Gareth Barry money on Stewart Downing who was excellent for us before he **** off to Liverpool and decided to be shit at football. So there is always hope when somebody leaves. But when McLeish arrived? That just struck me as a big "**** you" to the fans from the board. They were either totally incompetent (and they definitely had previous there with the Houllier farce) or they were trying their absolute hardest to drive down expectations from the fans that they were prepared to have a relegation battle over it. Why anybody would appoint a man with a reputation for playing shite football who had just been relegated for the second time in four seasons with a club that Villa fans universally hate for reasons other than those listed above is completely beyond my understanding. Again, it's worth stressing the fact that we got less points in 2011/12 under McLeish than Blackpool were relegated with in 2010/11, and we had a reputation as the most boring team in the entire league. **** knows how we stayed up. I'll probably never forgive Lerner or Faulkner for last season, and if they announced the were selling up tomorrow I'd be delighted. It's hard to think of anything to add to this. Spot on. I would also add that the current squad is possibly the worst in the last 30years. Hopefully Lambert can work miracles because I think the board currently dont give a shit as long as we survive and stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Might be because it is the freshest really...but for me it was definitely the Petrov news. Absolutely rocked me to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 What happened with Petrov had me nearly in tears very sad. Oh and the Mcleish appointment oh and while im at signing **** HEKSEY!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 The death of Tony Barton The demolishing of the trinity and Holte The Stan news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I feel like a cold hearted bastard for not being upset over the Stan news now. Obviously I wish the guy all the best but from the moment I heard it I thought he would be able to make a full recovery, a young man at the peak of physical fitness with the money to afford the best healthcare in the world. The odds are certainly stacked in his favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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