Folski Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 How costly are those 6 points we gave Southampton. They've got to be looking over their shoulder, at home to Liverpool & Chelsea next two games, hopefully they get no points from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Relegation run-in: Although not as easy as 'on paper the result will be' to predict, it is useful to now what the run in is for each team to the remainder of the season.As it stands: Aston Villa will play teams that average 11th in the league (2 of top 6) QPR will play teams that average 12th in the league (2 of top 6) Wigan will play teams that average 11th in the league (2 of top 6) (ignoring Man City game in hand and being optimistic and saying they'll lose it) Reading will play teams that average 10th in the league (3 of top 6) Southampton will play teams that average 10th in the league (2 of top 6) So you could argue there is not much in it. QPR have the nicest run in and, with the cash they have spent and Harry in charge, I fancy them to survive. Reading look in big trouble. Southampton have got a very good chance of being pulled into it. Which leaves us and Wigan fighting for the final relegation spot. Final day decider anyone?! Unfortunately, I still think we're going to fall just short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I want Saints to go down. They deserve it for sacking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) I just can't see QPR going down ah come on... there's no way they're going to stay up, even now. they just gave themselves too much to do. they needed consistent title winning form from the middle of last month to have a hope, and they just won't keep that up This is cliched, short-sighted nonsense. If they beat us they'll be 1 point from safety with another 24 points to play for. They probably have a better chance of us of staying up given their players and recent form. I'd take a draw now from next weeks match now. Edited March 9, 2013 by supernova26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I just can't see QPR going down ah come on... there's no way they're going to stay up, even now. they just gave themselves too much to do. they needed consistent title winning form from the middle of last month to have a hope, and they just won't keep that up This is cliched, short-sighted nonsense. If they beat us they'll be 1 point from safety with another 24 points to play for. They probably have a better chance of us of staying up given their players and recent form. I'd take a draw now from next weeks match now. How is it cliched? For them to stay up they'll need to have at least equalled top 4 form for a long stretch of the season. If they were capable of that they wouldn't be bottom of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Need three more wins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Been convinced since the Everton game that we'd stay up and obviously todays result hasn't changed that. I'm confident we will beat QPR and if we do I'd like to think we can then get something from Liverpool at home. Then with Stoke and Fulham to follow it is not beyond the realms that with in the next 4 games we could be well clear. With QPR in mind it would be nice to see a big crowd at VP right behind the players. It is a massive game for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Need three more wins Was thinking this actually, provided we get a few draws too & don't lose against QPR or Wigan. That'd put us on 39 points which may well be enough (considering we are minus 1 point with our inferior GD 39 is the equivalent of 38 for us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I thought the QPR game would be big and have been looking forward to going to see it for a while, but now it is finally coming up, and seeing just how close we are and how important it could be, i am very very nervous and will be a nervous wreck for most of the game. Hope against hope that we can push ourselves up the league with a win there and a surprise result against Liverpool. that will stick us on 33 which would stick us right in amongst a lot of teams who i thought were just too far ahead of us a few weeks back. teams like southampton, sunderland, norwich, fulham, newcastle, these are teams i think we should aim to be catching up with, if we keep looking over our shoulders for the rest of the season then we've got no room for error, we need at least 1 team to cushion us from relegation for me to feel just a bit more comfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted March 9, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 9, 2013 I reckon Southampton will get dragged in to the mire in a couple of weeks tops. One of the mackems or the Geordie's will too. A draw will do against QPR and against Wigan as long as we pick up 3 or 4 wins. (As Richard says above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Need three more wins Was thinking this actually, provided we get a few draws too & don't lose against QPR or Wigan. That'd put us on 39 points which may well be enough (considering we are minus 1 point with our inferior GD 39 is the equivalent of 38 for us) 39 points will be more than enough. 36 will be enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) 3 wins will be enough. I think we will get them from stoke, Fulham and Sunderland. Take a draw v QPR. Edited March 9, 2013 by HeyAnty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Need three more wins Was thinking this actually, provided we get a few draws too & don't lose against QPR or Wigan. That'd put us on 39 points which may well be enough (considering we are minus 1 point with our inferior GD 39 is the equivalent of 38 for us) 39 points will be more than enough. 36 will be enough Only thing that worries me with that is thats the equivalent of 35 for us with GD which is a bit close for my liking.. I still think more like 37 (38 for us) personally...may need less but wouldn't be confident of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Could really do with Sunderland to be dragged into it. We have to play them and its hard to know how they'll respond to the downward slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Could really do with Sunderland to be dragged into it. We have to play them and its hard to know how they'll respond to the downward slide. Yes and I think the quality of their players are very poor. See Graham was taken off in the 57th min today as well. Typical MON signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 It's about time we beat a Redknapp side down B6. Bring on next Saturday !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Need three more wins Was thinking this actually, provided we get a few draws too & don't lose against QPR or Wigan. That'd put us on 39 points which may well be enough (considering we are minus 1 point with our inferior GD 39 is the equivalent of 38 for us) 39 points will be more than enough. 36 will be enough Only thing that worries me with that is thats the equivalent of 35 for us with GD which is a bit close for my liking.. I still think more like 37 (38 for us) personally...may need less but wouldn't be confident of that. well, if we look at it in terms of games left and points needed to get to both 35 (what I think will be safe) and 38 (what you think will be safe it looks like this: QPR - Need 12 points from 9 games to get to 35, or 15 points to get to 38 (more than half the points they've accrued all season) Reading - Need 12 points from 9 games to get to 35, or 15 points to get to 38 (more than half the points they've accrued all season) Wigan - Need 11 points from 10 games to get to 35, or 14 points to get to 38 Villa - Need 8 points to from 9 games to get to 35, or 11 to get to 38 Southampton - Need 7 points from 9 games to get to 35, or 10 to get to 38 Newcastle - Need 5 points from 10 games to get to 35, or 8 to get to 38 Sunderland - Need 5 points from 9 games to get to 35, or 8 to get to 38 That's probably where the involvement stops, barring an absolute catastrophe from Norwich, West Ham, Stoke or Fulham. So if we managed to get to 35, for goal difference to come into it, whoever is 3rd last would need to hit those points targets. QPR and Reading won't get the points they need to stay up - I know some people think QPR will, but they'd need to play like title chasers to do it - which means, IMO of course, the worst performing of the rest would need to hit the outlined targets. That's the WORST of the rest, not the best. 8 points and we're as good as safe, 3 wins and we can put our feet up I can't see it being 38 points for safety, even with our goal difference. For that to happen (assuming we write off the bottom 2, which I'm happy to do), then the worst performing of the rest, not counting us, needs to hit the outlined targets for 38 points. That's not really likely. The only thing that'll see us down is if WE'RE the worst performing of us, Wigan, Southampton, Newcastle and Sunderland for the rest of the season Edited March 9, 2013 by P3te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquaddieVilla Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I can see Reading imploding, next 2 games versus Man Utd & Arsenal will mean they will be stuck on 23 pts & 7 defeats. I can see us beating QPR by the odd goal and Liverpool at least a point, if we can keep Suarez out of the game. Wigan are not doing much in the league either and maybe their cup exploits will cause them more harm. Southampton havent got a hard run in so i see them safe. Sunderland have got a derby with Newcastle, Man Utd, Everton, Chelsea,Tottenham and us to play, the way they are playing i can see them taking no points from those games. 18. Sunderland 19. Wigan 20. Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 nice analysis Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Seeing Sunderland relegated is quite an attractive proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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