Mantis Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Vlaar is a crock and I worry okore is too. We need better cover I can understand Vlaar but why Okore? Purely on how innocuous the injury occurred and the length of recovery. Injuries like that can happen to anybody, and recovering from them can take a very long time. As far as I know he doesn't have an injury-plagued record. Neither does Vlaar though and people on here believe he is "made of glass" To be fair Vlaar's got a history with injuries, although I agree that it's exaggerated a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Vlaar is a crock and I worry okore is too. We need better cover I can understand Vlaar but why Okore? Purely on how innocuous the injury occurred and the length of recovery. Injuries like that can happen to anybody, and recovering from them can take a very long time. As far as I know he doesn't have an injury-plagued record. Neither does Vlaar though and people on here believe he is "made of glass" To be fair Vlaar's got a history with injuries, although I agree that it's exaggerated a bit. He has only had a 'history' of injuries since being here though, which I put down to the way we play and also the intensity of the Prem, as well as being rushed back the other day. I'd still say he is far from being made of glass though, his one proper injury before joining us was when he did his knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarjei Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) He has only had a 'history' of injuries since being here though, which I put down to the way we play and also the intensity of the Prem, as well as being rushed back the other day. I'd still say he is far from being made of glass though, his one proper injury before joining us was when he did his knee. When he joined Feyenoord in 06 he was injured on and off for 2 seasons straight, including doing his cruciate ligament. After that he's been ok, maybe slighly prone to pulling a muscle. Edit: Sorry, checked it and seems I misremembered. He joined in '06 and had two seasons where he was plagued by shorter injuries, and then he was out for two full seasons. Edited February 4, 2014 by tarjei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 He has only had a 'history' of injuries since being here though, which I put down to the way we play and also the intensity of the Prem, as well as being rushed back the other day. I'd still say he is far from being made of glass though, his one proper injury before joining us was when he did his knee. When he joined Feyenoord in 06 he was injured for 2 seasons straight, including doing his cruciate ligament. After that he's been ok, maybe slighly prone to pulling a muscle. I think it isn't a coincidence that his injuries whilst playing for us have came at a similar period in the season, when we have the most games in the shortest period of time. As you say, I think he may be slightly prone to a muscle being pulled or strained, but that is because of the intensity of the league combined with the amount of work our defence has to do every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The problem with Vlaar's injury proneness whilst with us is that in the first season, we had no adequate cover for him when the huge flux of games came, so he was probably forced to play more games in a week than he's used to. Then this season, we've had adequate cover in Okore, but he's been injured for the majority of the season. I think when he returns, he'll see out the season, his injuries tend to come around December time. Also you have to remember, he tends to get injuries during a period when Holland and the majority of Europe have a winter break, so Vlaar probably isn't used to playing so many games, in such a short amount of time, during that period, which probably ends up causing him injury issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The problem with Vlaar's injury proneness whilst with us is that in the first season, we had no adequate cover for him when the huge flux of games came, so he was probably forced to play more games in a week than he's used to. Then this season, we've had adequate cover in Okore, but he's been injured for the majority of the season. I think when he returns, he'll see out the season, his injuries tend to come around December time. Also you have to remember, he tends to get injuries during a period when Holland and the majority of Europe have a winter break, so Vlaar probably isn't used to playing so many games, in such a short amount of time, during that period, which probably ends up causing him injury issues. Yup, bang on. To be honest all of our defenders have to do a shed load of work in every single game, their fitness levels must be extremely high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Yep next season we need to take him out for a game or two in December, give him a breather. Spooky how he's broken down at pretty much exactly the same point in both seasons here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Any news on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2014 Any news on it? Hamstring, no return date. http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 blimey, he'll probably be out then. Ciaran, time to step it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 to be fair ive always found physioroom wide of the mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Yep next season we need to take him out for a game or two in December, give him a breather. Spooky how he's broken down at pretty much exactly the same point in both seasons here. He was missing in December haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Any news on it? Hamstring, no return date. http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php Well thats not good with such vital games coming up, heres hoping it isn't that serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hamstrings can be well dodgy though, hopefully he felt it early and they took him off straight away and there's not much damage. Could be a few weeks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 It would really help our season if this guy or gabby could string 3 games together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 With Vlaar out, I can see us being dragged into a relegation scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 We don't know how long Vlaar is going to be out for yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 With Vlaar out, I can see us being dragged into a relegation scrap. Yep - we hardly get a point when he doesn't play. Was really hoping the manager would plug this weakness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Doesn't look good does it, usually there are noises from the club if he has a chance. It's very worrying as we've heard nothing whatsoever which is normally a sign it's worse than hoped.... I agree we can write off gathering wins with him out regardless who it's against as we simply ship too many goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 With Vlaar out, I can see us being dragged into a relegation scrap. Yep - we hardly get a point when he doesn't play. Was really hoping the manager would plug this weakness. To be fair there's no guarantee that bringing another CB would make much difference. As you rightly pointed out, we barely get anything when he doesn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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