norton65ca Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 well, here's the thing. I don't believe we could separate under the terms within which the NHL is governed to be honest. The teams are the PROPERTY of the league from what I understand. Canadian teams have always been in the minority but in terms of influence they were usually top dogs, look at the trophy cabinet of the Montreal Canadiens for example. When big money began to have a bigger effect, the picture changed and we haven't had a Canadian champion in about 20 years or more. The money now is firmly in American hands and if we were to leave, the best players would probably move where the money is and the Canadian teams would be a shadow of where they were. Our best opportunity is to stay but where a Stanley Cup will come from I have no idea, only two Canadian teams made the playoffs this year and quite frankly, they stunk and were out in the first round. We have a Canadian gridiron league and it's pathetically small time in comparison to the NFL. Money, just like in English footie, has certainly changed everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norton65ca Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Mods, please forgive this monumental slide off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 question 1: not many question 2: about the same number to be honest, English footie isn't on many Canadians radar. How many English people know how many Canadian based teams there are in the NHL? 6. Well here's an example of 1 person who doesn't know how many Canadian teams are in the NHL. :winkold: Massive derp. My mind totally blanked the Oilers. Proven how much they've done in years. :winkold: Before the Jets came back I would have loved to have seen Hamilton get a team. The Maple Leafs are such an awful and expensive franchise to follow. They'd garner a lot of support in southern Ontario since the province is so huge. It's a shame there's so much money in the American teams and the overall hostility for some when Atlanta folded and Winnipeg reformed. Dallas has some of the worst attendance records in the NHL. Yet, when the Jets came back they sold every season ticket. Constantly full up. Even if the arena isn't the biggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_shere Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 OH DEAR! Bluebirds are no more :bonk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 In ten years time people won't remember anymore. Just like Leeds and Arsenal and all the other teams who have changed their kits over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_shere Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 In ten years time people won't remember anymore. Just like Leeds and Arsenal and all the other teams who have changed their kits over the years. Still doesnt make it OK. Shocking decision IMO, specially as their nickname is the "BLUEbirds" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 In ten years time people won't remember anymore. Just like Leeds and Arsenal and all the other teams who have changed their kits over the years. What if we changed our name to Birmingham Villa? You reckon people will have forgotten in 10 years time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 In ten years time people won't remember anymore. Just like Leeds and Arsenal and all the other teams who have changed their kits over the years. What if we changed our name to Birmingham Villa? You reckon people will have forgotten in 10 years time? Probably. We'd just be called The Villa by most fans if we did that. Aston Villa is the coolest name in world football though so we would be shooting ourselves in the foot if we changed it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Come to think of it I hardly ever say Aston Villa. Mostly just Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteEndRob Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 So they've changed from blue to red, changed nickname from the bluebirds to the dragons and have also changed the badge. Unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 Leeds, Liverpool & Palace have all done it though. Its not a huge deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 if they win promotion i dont think anybody will actually care about the owners motives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 7, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2012 OH DEAR! Bluebirds are no more :bonk:Hang about. Have they or haven't they? 10 May 2012 Last updated at 20:27 Cardiff City have dropped plans to change the football club's blue shirts to red, say the Malaysian owners. In an open letter to fans, chairman Dato Chan Tien Ghee said proposals for red shirts and a dragon logo had been leaked before being finalised. He confirmed the plans had been dropped due to "vociferous opposition". However, he warned that the club could not afford to continue losing money, and that an investment strategy said to be worth £100m would now be reassessed. Supporters groups welcomed the change of heart. Proposals to change the traditional blue shirts and bluebird logo sparked a fierce debate among supporters when rumours emerged on Monday evening, following the club's Championship play-off semi-final defeat by West Ham United. Club chief executive Alan Whiteley confirmed there were plans to introduce red shirts and a dragon logo for the new season in a meeting with the Cardiff City Supporters Trust on Tuesday night. The chairman, known as TG, said in a letter to fans on Thursday that there was never any plan to change the club's name, but confirmed that there had been discussions about the crest and home colours. Mr Ghee said it was "unfortunate" the proposals were leaked before being finalised by the board. "In the light of the vociferous opposition by a number of the fans to the proposals being considered... we will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo” (Chan Tien Ghee Chairman, Cardiff City) But he said they were intended to boost the club's marketability and "demonstrate the symbolic fusion of Welsh and Asian cultures", and were not meant as a "slight" on traditions. "This would have been a springboard for the successful commercialisation and promotion of the club and its brand, driving international revenues and allowing us to fund transfers and success locally, thereby giving the club the best chance of competing at the higher reaches of competition," he said. "This was not meant as a slight in any way shape or form on the club's traditions or history which we recognise are the lifeblood of any club. "It was intended as a positive change to allow us to adapt and embrace the future. "Notwithstanding a number of rumours there were no further plans to turn the stadium red or make other radical changes." He also spelled out the club's financial situation: "It is clear to all concerned that the club simply cannot continue to function and exist in its current state, effectively losing large amounts of money each month, while acquiring more and more debt. "We have continued along this path until the end of the current season, but the club inevitably now faces bold and real world decisions should we want to see the club survive. As romantic and simplistic a notion as it may seem, maintaining our current course without growth or change, is not, and cannot be, an option". The chairman stressed: "We have no desire to cause offence or for people to think we have no respect for the club or its history as it would appear has been suggested in various quarters including by local assembly members. "We would have hoped that the significant investment made to date would have already demonstrated our good faith in that regard. Indeed, we are disappointed that anybody would think the contrary. "In the light of the vociferous opposition by a number of the fans to the proposals being considered as expressed directly to our local management and through various media and other outlets, we will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the next season with the current badge." The chairman added that a proposed investment and development strategy - said to be worth £100m - would now be reassessed, and may include looking for new and additional partners and investors. Initial reaction from fans on social media appeared to welcome the change of heart by the club's owners, but some feared that the promise of £100m investment may now be in doubt. A joint statement from Cardiff City Supporters' Trust and Cardiff City Supporters' Club said they welcomed the decision to drop the branding plans. "Like the vast majority of Cardiff City fans, we are extremely grateful for the financial support Vincent Tan and his associates have provided in difficult times and we hope that their investment in our wonderful club can continue," said the statement. "Many supporters will be pleased at the announcement by the club chairman Dato Chan Tien Ghee that the team will play in blue next season and the Bluebirds club badge will continue to be used. "Our Malaysian backers have clearly recognised the strength of feeling about the traditions and history of the club which stretch back more than 100 years. "We believe that it is very important for the future of the club that there is dialogue between fans' representatives and the club's board, particularly when radical proposals are under consideration. "It is now important that everyone - owners, team, staff and fans - continue to pull together to develop a strong and sustainable future for our football club which sees the Bluebirds moving forward in a positive way." Welsh Conservative leader Andrew RT Davies, who said he was a long-standing supporter, also said he was "delighted" by the rethink. Mr Davies said it would have been a "real shame" to lose the continuity and tradition, but urged the owners to continue to examine how to improve finances. "The reaction to these plans is by no means a rejection of the philosophy of the owners, who have invested heavily in the club since taking over," he added. BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Leeds, Liverpool & Palace have all done it though. Its not a huge deal. It's a huge deal to do it in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 7, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2012 Leeds, Liverpool & Palace have all done it though. Its not a huge deal. It's a huge deal to do it in 2012.They should have done it in 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 That BBC story is from a month ago. The kit launch and new crest story is from yesterday. They have done a U turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 9, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2013 Something tells me this could end up being a disastrous move by Cardiff's owner.Cardiff City boss Malky Mackay loses head of recruitment Iain Moody Cardiff City owner Vincent Tan has angered manager Malky Mackay by putting head of recruitment Iain Moody on gardening leave and replacing him with a friend of Tan's son.Mackay will now have to work with 23-year-old Alisher Apsalyamov, who is from Kazakhstan.He has no football experience but had been helping out with jobs around the stadium.Moody joined Watford as press officer while Mackay was manager before becoming the football operations manager at Vicarage Road.Since following Mackay to Wales, Moody has played a pivotal role in the acquisitions of the star names such as Steven Caulker, Gary Medel, Kevin Theophile-Catherine and Fraizer Campbell.The decision to suspend Moody comes just days after it was revealed Tan and the City squad had been at loggerheads over end-of-season bonus payments.Cardiff are making no comment for legal reasons.As a newly-promoted side, Cardiff's survival in the Premier League is by no means guaranteed. They've started well and with Mackay they look like they could stay up. Tan risks seriously upsetting the apple cart with a move like this. At the very least he will have pissed Mackay off. But he'll also probably have unsettled him with another reminder of what he's capable of doing unannounced. Tan would do well to realise he has a good thing with Mackay and not to piss him off. He only has to look towards Ewood Park to realise things can go south very very quickly when you try and tinker even with the best of intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 23 years old? Bet he is a whizz on football manager. Vincent Tan comes across as a funny guy even though I imagine purists hate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 9, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2013 This chap was painting the stadium in the summer, seems ideal preparation to become head of recruitment. Football has sold its soul, it is the play thing of super rich overseas idiots and the domestic Mike Ashley version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 This chap was painting the stadium in the summer, seems ideal preparation to become head of recruitment. Football has sold its soul, it is the play thing of super rich overseas idiots and the domestic Mike Ashley version. If it wasn't for Villa, I wouldn't give a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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