Blaizend Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Klopp I can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Didn't Rafa sell Warnock? I thought that was Houllier? No he was still there under Benitez. I remember him being pissed off at missing out on being included in the champions league final squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez stands by his decision to sell Stephen Warnock. Warnock is now with Aston Villa after arriving in the summer from Blackburn Rovers and is being tipped for a place in England's World Cup squad. "He could have been a good player for us but he wanted to play every single game," said Benitez. "We had Fabio Aurelio and, at the time, John Arne Riise who was a fantastic player for Liverpool. So we couldn't play him every game. "When you have a player on the bench who has an opportunity to go, you can't stop this. He was always a good worker and very competitive and that's why he's at the level he is." Yup it was Rafa apparently.. he has my support straight away if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCVilla2011 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Some interesting articles on Benitez... http://tomkinstimes.com/2010/02/lucky-rafa/ http://tomkinstimes.com/2009/10/some-rafa-facts/ http://tomkinstimes.com/2009/10/the-benitez-myths-series/ Also he had a net spend of around 78m in 6 seasons, about £13m a year. Two Champions League fianls and 4 points of the title and some would want Brendan **** Rodgers first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Only #AVFC goss heard in last 24 hours is club officials insisted they are not waiting on #LFC to appoint before picking up left overs James Nursey you know I don't think anythings happening ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Some interesting articles on Benitez... http://tomkinstimes.com/2010/02/lucky-rafa/ http://tomkinstimes.com/2009/10/some-rafa-facts/ http://tomkinstimes.com/2009/10/the-benitez-myths-series/ Also he had a net spend of around 78m in 6 seasons, about £13m a year. Two Champions League fianls and 4 points of the title and some would want Brendan **** Rodgers first. Whilst I agree that Benitez did a good job, there was a pretty good squad to start with. Has he ever had to start the building job? I don't know, so it's a genuine question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 They are waiting on the Martinez situation imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 They are waiting on the Martinez situation imo I don't think we are that far down the road. Seems they thought OGS was in the bag - so they have to start over - aside from the odd rumours - I don't actually think we have a top target in mind. Nothing until at least early next week IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-67 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 So, to sum up, yesterday it was Lambert, today it's Rafa. Tomorrow it'll be Martinez. I see how it works now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCVilla2011 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Some interesting articles on Benitez... http://tomkinstimes.com/2010/02/lucky-rafa/ http://tomkinstimes.com/2009/10/some-rafa-facts/ http://tomkinstimes.com/2009/10/the-benitez-myths-series/ Also he had a net spend of around 78m in 6 seasons, about £13m a year. Two Champions League fianls and 4 points of the title and some would want Brendan **** Rodgers first. Whilst I agree that Benitez did a good job, there was a pretty good squad to start with. Has he ever had to start the building job? I don't know, so it's a genuine question From one of the articles... With some revisionism (see Charlie Nicholas’ comments as one example), it seems that Benítez actually inherited a really good squad; not least because he himself worked miracles with it. Of course, his critics slate him for selling Michael Owen, when in truth, the only reliable (up to that point) goalscorer on the books was intent on leaving. Lucky Rafa managed to get given only £8m after Rick Parry’s negotiations, on account of the player’s contract having run down prior to his arrival. And Heskey, who could have provided Benítez with someone to hold the ball up for goalscoring midfielders in the manager’s preferred system, was already sold. (I was a big critic of Heskey’s during the final Houllier years, but I said during 2004/05 that he would have been better in the new system, even if only for a year or two until someone more reliable was sought.) The main problem for Lucky Rafa was that Houllier’s best signings would only present a short-term legacy. Had Didi Hamann and Sami Hyypia been 25 in 2004, then they’d probably still be at the club, and money spent on their replacements would have been invested elsewhere. But they were already 30, as was Stephane Henchoz, who was a clearly fading force. That’s not Houllier’s fault, as these were successful buys; but their age didn’t help Benítez. Let’s also remember that Jamie Carragher became a really top-class player only after Benítez arrived and switched him to centre-back on a permanent basis, and that Steven Gerrard averaged six goals a season under Houllier, before becoming a 20-a-season man. So while these two were the best of Rafa’s inheritance, he also reshaped their game. Steve Finnan was another who found his best form under Benítez. Meanwhile, the young Academy graduates were way below the required standard. There were some other decent-enough kids, but even the promising Sinama-Pongolle only scored nine goals in 64 games; compare that with the much-less-heralded and less-expensive David N’Gog, who can play the lone-striker role and already has 10 in 42, and is still only 20. Then there were the keepers: Dudek had a great debut season in 2001/02, but had been making ricks ever since. Kirkland, meanwhile, had the bone density of a baby sparrow with osteoporosis (and although a good shot-stopper, was terrible at ‘sweeping’ – slow across the ground and awful at kicking). Elsewhere, Murphy and Warnock might have been kept on for longer (although Warnock had yet to play for the Reds, aged 22, before Rafa arrived), and Riise was certainly a good, if limited player. Smicer was talented, but ageing and rarely fit; ditto Harry Kewell, who should have been one of the real jewels handed over by Houllier, but whose body could no longer cope with Premier League football. But Traore, Diao, Cheyrou, Diouf, Le Tallec, Baros and Biscan will always been viewed as deeply flawed players, even if some were capable of the occasional inspired game, as seen in the run to Istanbul. Worse still, most had precious little resale value. Oh, and throw in Djibril Cissé, an erratic talent (who twice badly broke his leg; lucky Rafa) who, by today’s prices, cost the equivalent of £28m (which lucky Rafa often gets credited with paying), and the squad of 2004 contained little more than a handful of talents capable of offering any kind of service to Benítez beyond the first year or two Surprisingly poor squad left by Houllier, in hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Didn't Rafa sell Warnock?Yes. I want him even more now. That prick was undroppable under McLose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I would love Rafa Benitez won the spanish league twice in three years with Valencia, won the UEFA cup with them as well. Two CL finals with the bindippers (won one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Per Kendrick - no villa contact, for poyet, Martinez, or Lambert. Where has Kendrick stated this? Havent seen it on his twitter. Per Kendrick is Matt Kendrick's Swedish cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkr Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 What's all this noise about the FSW then? Id be happy with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Only #AVFC goss heard in last 24 hours is club officials insisted they are not waiting on #LFC to appoint before picking up left overs James Nursey you know I don't think anythings happening ! I wonder if that is signal from the club that we're not waiting for Martinez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempiternalVillain Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 What's the news guys? Inform me. Rafa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 They are waiting on the Martinez situation imo I don't think we are that far down the road. Seems they thought OGS was in the bag - so they have to start over - aside from the odd rumours - I don't actually think we have a top target in mind. Nothing until at least early next week IMO We were that far we never asked for further permission we never offered him anything but hey don't let that stop you! I agree with DVIN we are waiting for #lfc on Martinez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Didn't Rafa sell Warnock?Yes. I want him even more now. That prick was undroppable under McLose. Bar that time against Wolves, where him coming on was one of McLeish’s master strokes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Didn't Rafa sell Warnock?Yes. I want him even more now. That prick was undroppable under McLose. Bar that time against Wolves, where him coming on was one of McLeish’s master strokes...Coincidentally that was right in between him **** up against Swansea and gifting them a goal and him **** up even more against QPR and heading the ball into his own net. Shocking defender. One of the worst I've ever seen at Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Rumours that Randy is meeting Martinez in Miami and not Liverpool! According to Talksport Moose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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