Genie Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Might be a "reshuffle" coming up at the local council... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 WTF villaguy, some scary posts there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Firing Squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Not even going in to this. Both as bad as each other, sick and twisted individuals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 A person can be a paedophile but not a child molester. A person can be a child molester but not a paedophile. A person can be both. A person can be neither. Comparing Savile and Watkins, both are disgusting humans who preyed on vulnerable people. It's a bit strange to say one is worse than another or vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 That's a scary stat Villaguy. So there could be 1/4 of Villatalk with the same urges. I certainly hope not. Watkins does sound like a very sick person. I believe in our criminal law system though and don't think taking out vengeance is the right way in a civilised country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 A person can be a paedophile but not a child molester. A person can be a child molester but not a paedophile. A person can be both. A person can be neither. Comparing Savile and Watkins, both are disgusting humans who preyed on vulnerable people. It's a bit strange to say one is worse than another or vice versa. you're saying neither or both, talk about sitting on the fence What? Read it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I really think you can't see what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted December 1, 2013 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2013 How can you compare them both, it's extremely prejudiced to believe that Saville wanted to rape newborns or wanted to hurt people like Watkins. He most probably liked underage people, however he contributed immensely to charities and helped people more than me and you(probably) have done. The fact that nothing happened to him when he was alive and when these offences took place to me suggest that they were not as the media would play them out to be. He was no saint, but I wouldn't class him in the same category as Ian Watkins whatever argument you haveSavile attempted to rape babies. He molested comatose children. He raped (if that's possible) corpses. His charity work got him close to children while providing a front. He is everything you are saying he isn't. Do your research or stop posting crap in a volatile thread. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) you're saying neither or both, talk about sitting on the fenceWho would you rather have looking after your newborn baby? Savile, perhaps.Who would you rather have looking after the body of your dearly departed gran? Watkins, perhaps.Pushing it to be confident of declaring a winner in that race. Edited December 1, 2013 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I see you are agreeing with me Please. See BOF's post below and he outlines why I'm not agreeing with you. I was posting a slightly related point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 This is a bit odd villaguy. There's no doubt that Savile was an evil bloke; why argue for the sake of how evil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Is this paedophile top trumps or something? Are we really debating different levels of child molestation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Is this paedophile top trumps or something? Are we really debating different levels of child molestation? Please don't say 'we'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2013 A disgusting attitude that ignores or doesn't understand the psychological affect on the victims who didn't feel safe coming out while the man was still alive and while he was still a national treasure. Some of his closest friends have now acknowledged what he did but you can't. The fact you didn't even realise some of that stuff had been reported should tell you that you might have a lot of reading to do on the subject. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 It's got to that stage yeah, I don't think he is anywhere near the Ian Watkins level of paedophilia. For one thing he isn't a convict ....because he's dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 If he was that bad why didn't people come out with it? New levels of ignorance on VT tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I've gone from disbelief, to exasperation, on to amusement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2013 You don't get it. There are very good reasons as to why. They're in this thread earlier on. I'm not here to regurgitate them for you, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted December 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2013 Mr Mooney was spot on with his post on the first page 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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