Dodgyknees Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Still not sure... I thought I wanted a PS4... but seeing the Forza screenshots etc makes me less sure I've £140 on a game card waiting to go towards it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 27, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2014 The PS4 is pound for pound a better machine though, and if the sales gap continues to grow it'll definitely start affecting the likelihood of developers putting their A teams on Xbox One multiplat games, or even opting for Xbox One exclusives You'd imagine Microsoft would throw money at developers to prevent that from happening to save embarrassment. But I guess there's a limit in how much they're willing to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 The PS4 is pound for pound a better machine though, and if the sales gap continues to grow it'll definitely start affecting the likelihood of developers putting their A teams on Xbox One multiplat games, or even opting for Xbox One exclusives You'd imagine Microsoft would throw money at developers to prevent that from happening to save embarrassment. But I guess there's a limit in how much they're willing to pay. Yeah, I don't like Microsoft's policies regarding exclusivity TBH. Sony's is more in line with my beliefs - they set up or buy their own studios, which carries exclusivity by default, and increases their in-house stable. They also use those studios for collaborations with other members of Worldwide Studios. That's the right way to do it. Microsoft just pay guys NOT to release their games elsewhere, and don't actually set about buying their own studios, or building their own games. That's not an approach that I think can last all that long. Spending tens of millions on exclusives on a per-game basis versus spending a little bit more to buy an entire studio and have exclusivity over their entire output makes no sense in the long run Still not sure... I thought I wanted a PS4... but seeing the Forza screenshots etc makes me less sure I've £140 on a game card waiting to go towards it! Horizon 2 is awesome, but maybe Driveclub will deliver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 27, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) Were 343 developed by Microsoft? Or are they another studio who they've bought? (genuine question) Edited September 27, 2014 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 The PS4 is pound for pound a better machine though, and if the sales gap continues to grow it'll definitely start affecting the likelihood of developers putting their A teams on Xbox One multiplat games, or even opting for Xbox One exclusives You'd imagine Microsoft would throw money at developers to prevent that from happening to save embarrassment. But I guess there's a limit in how much they're willing to pay. Yeah, I don't like Microsoft's policies regarding exclusivity TBH. Sony's is more in line with my beliefs - they set up or buy their own studios, which carries exclusivity by default, and increases their in-house stable. They also use those studios for collaborations with other members of Worldwide Studios. That's the right way to do it. Microsoft just pay guys NOT to release their games elsewhere, and don't actually set about buying their own studios, or building their own games. That's not an approach that I think can last all that long. Spending tens of millions on exclusives on a per-game basis versus spending a little bit more to buy an entire studio and have exclusivity over their entire output makes no sense in the long run Still not sure... I thought I wanted a PS4... but seeing the Forza screenshots etc makes me less sure I've £140 on a game card waiting to go towards it! Horizon 2 is awesome, but maybe Driveclub will deliver I do have my eyes on Driveclub too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Were 343 developed by Microsoft? Or are they another studio who they've bought? (genuine question) 343 is a Microsoft studio created for Halo titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted September 27, 2014 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) It's not quite as straightforward a call as it was anymore. I think EA Access is a real coup for MS, although some disagree. For me it's a good way to enjoy the likes of Madden where I probably wouldn't be bothered keeping up with the annual versions. The PS4 is pound for pound a better machine though, and if the sales gap continues to grow it'll definitely start affecting the likelihood of developers putting their A teams on Xbox One multiplat games, or even opting for Xbox One exclusives I don't think the gap is as big as it was, Microsoft haven't said anything about their sales figures since April and since then they've improved a lot, brought prices down and are still improving a lot of features. The problem is that they **** up the launch so badly that it won't change a lot of peoples minds. Edited September 27, 2014 by Rino8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 27, 2014 Administrator Share Posted September 27, 2014 The problem is that they **** up the launch so badly that it won't change a lot of peoples minds. ... and that it's primarily a media consumption device and the games bit is secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted September 27, 2014 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2014 The problem is that they **** up the launch so badly that it won't change a lot of peoples minds. ... and that it's primarily a media consumption device and the games bit is secondary. ^ Exactly where they got the launch wrong. It's not primarily media, they oversold it that way and so it got that reputation. It's a lot more media based than the PS4, but that goes without saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 It's not quite as straightforward a call as it was anymore. I think EA Access is a real coup for MS, although some disagree. For me it's a good way to enjoy the likes of Madden where I probably wouldn't be bothered keeping up with the annual versions. The PS4 is pound for pound a better machine though, and if the sales gap continues to grow it'll definitely start affecting the likelihood of developers putting their A teams on Xbox One multiplat games, or even opting for Xbox One exclusives I don't think the gap is as big as it was, Microsoft haven't said anything about their sales figures since April and since then they've improved a lot, brought prices down and are still improving a lot of features. The problem is that they **** up the launch so badly that it won't change a lot of peoples minds.the gap is actually growing. It was 2:1 previously, now it's 4:1 pushing 5:1 in many places and the Xbox is barely selling now than the Wii u weekly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted September 28, 2014 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2014 It's not quite as straightforward a call as it was anymore. I think EA Access is a real coup for MS, although some disagree. For me it's a good way to enjoy the likes of Madden where I probably wouldn't be bothered keeping up with the annual versions. The PS4 is pound for pound a better machine though, and if the sales gap continues to grow it'll definitely start affecting the likelihood of developers putting their A teams on Xbox One multiplat games, or even opting for Xbox One exclusives I don't think the gap is as big as it was, Microsoft haven't said anything about their sales figures since April and since then they've improved a lot, brought prices down and are still improving a lot of features. The problem is that they **** up the launch so badly that it won't change a lot of peoples minds. the gap is actually growing. It was 2:1 previously, now it's 4:1 pushing 5:1 in many places and the Xbox is barely selling now than the Wii u weekly I don't know about that, in Japan the xbox has been a joke but the PS4 hardly sells well there, either. Other than that there aren't actually any other sales figures. I don't doubt the PS4 is selling better, and rightfully so but you're saying since the price drop, Kinectless bundles and all the other updates the xbox is doing doubly worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 There are sales figures from NPD every month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 28, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 28, 2014 I brought my Xbox One to Canada with me, thinking I'd just buy a replacement power brick but it seems that I'll have a right palaver trying to get one direct from MS. I think it'll be easier for me to sell it in the UK and buy a new one here. Any of you interested in a second hand Xbox One? It's got a Kinect and still in the original packaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Pick up a converter and you'll be fine. Pop into any decent electronics store and explain the situation and they should be able to hook you up with the right kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 28, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 28, 2014 Could be a good shout that. Just been Googling up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 The problem is that they **** up the launch so badly that it won't change a lot of peoples minds. ... and that it's primarily a media consumption device and the games bit is secondary. ^ Exactly where they got the launch wrong. It's not primarily media, they oversold it that way and so it got that reputation. It's a lot more media based than the PS4, but that goes without saying. The PS4 being a horrific media device means the XB1 gets labelled a media device by default anyway. Some people even said the same about the 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) I'm sure it's probably old news, but for anyone with a parent/child/sibling/good friend they can trust, digital game sharing could save a bit of money. Link I've only tried it with FIFA 14 which my brother previously had, but no longer, and it worked. I'm guessing it does with anything though. Can pretty much cut the price of games in half if this works how I assume it does. Edited October 1, 2014 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 1, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) I brought my Xbox One to Canada with me, thinking I'd just buy a replacement power brick but it seems that I'll have a right palaver trying to get one direct from MS. I think it'll be easier for me to sell it in the UK and buy a new one here. Any of you interested in a second hand Xbox One? It's got a Kinect and still in the original packaging. I'll give you a tenner for it. Edited October 1, 2014 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 1, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2014 I'm sure it's probably old news, but for anyone with a parent/child/sibling/good friend they can trust, digital game sharing could save a bit of money. Link I've only tried it with FIFA 14 which my brother previously had, but no longer, and it worked. I'm guessing it does with anything though. Can pretty much cut the price of games in half if this works how I assume it does. Yup it's an awesome feature which MS seem to get no credit for. If Playstation had it everyone would be creaming about it. Using the game sharing and having the ability to buy games from any regional store I picked up Destiny and FIFA on release day for £40 for both. I'll never buy anything from the UK store again, such a rip off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Do you know if there's any sites that sell digital codes for games at all? Or do you just look for offers on the different regional stores? I got Madden 15 from CDKeys for £33, but they've only got about 3 or 4 digital games on there I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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