coda Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 and Laursen and Bouma played their best football of their career under MON Laursen best form was in Italy when he won a deal with Milan and Bouma was a Dutch regular before joining Villa. They played well here but not best of their career Laursen's best football was played captaining Aston Villa. Next you'll be saying McGrath was better at Manyoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Laursen was awesome at Verona and was his best football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 How many Verona matches did you see Laursen in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 saw a few games and he was a major part in their great season in 99/00 which earned him a move to MIlan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 How many Verona matches did you see Laursen in? Ok we are way off topic here but Martin Laursen in the 2007/2008 season at Villa was absolutely fantastic so that must have been some seasons he had at Verona if that was his best form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Hmmmm, wikipedia is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 so is Channel 4 and Tim Parks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatestConfirmedIn Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Taken from Football 365 http://football365.com/f365-features/7400128/New-Year-Resolutions Aston Villa - Patience is a virtue (for now) Abusive graffiti on local walls and protests outside the stadium made for an uneasy introduction for Alex McLeish, and his footballing 'style' is often an insult to the noun. If you asked many Villa supporters, they would have asked Father Christmas for a new manager under their tree. But hear this: Aston Villa are no longer a top-six club, and should be sectioned with Fulham, Sunderland and Everton as the 'may do wells'. The club may have spent £24million on Darren Bent, but selling your best two midfielders negates such a purchase, and it is rare to discover a striker that does not rely on service. True, the club spent £16million in the summer (N'Zogbia, Given and Hutton) but all were replacements and, in any case, Stoke spent £18million and acquired two England internationals on free transfers. Petrov, Heskey, Dunne, Warnock, Given, Cuellar: all are aged 30 or more. McLeish has been dour but a club that has sold seven England internationals since the summer of 2009 was only going one way. The first club of England's second city needs rebuilding. McLeish may not be the long-term answer, but to lay the blame solely at his feet is the action of a naïve man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Can anyone on here see AM leaving Hutton on the bench and playing Carlos, when Hutton comes back from suspension? I think Carlos has done well since he came in and deserves a starting place - no matter who is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 No he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Can anyone on here see AM leaving Hutton on the bench and playing Carlos, when Hutton comes back from suspension? I think Carlos has done well since he came in and deserves a starting place - no matter who is available. rather HUtton replace Collins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 McLeish has been dour but a club that has sold seven England internationals since the summer of 2009 was only going one way. do they really count Shorey and Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatestConfirmedIn Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 McLeish has been dour but a club that has sold seven England internationals since the summer of 2009 was only going one way. do they really count Shorey and Knight Agreed, obviously they were just trying to illustrate a point. Barry, Milner, Young, Downing, Cahill all in 2yrs is truly shocking in business and football terms. Don't see Spurs doing that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Can anyone on here see AM leaving Hutton on the bench and playing Carlos, when Hutton comes back from suspension? I think Carlos has done well since he came in and deserves a starting place - no matter who is available. rather HUtton replace Collins Hutton is just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Barry, Milner, Young, Downing, Cahill all in 2yrs is truly shocking in business and football terms. Don't see Spurs doing that?! the other was actually Luke Young but Spurs did sell Defoe, Carrick, Keane and Berbatov over 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Carlos is going to get dropped, no doubt about it. Same has happened with some of the other players when Heskey has been out, they've done decent and he comes straight back in. Same will happen with Guzan too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatestConfirmedIn Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Barry, Milner, Young, Downing, Cahill all in 2yrs is truly shocking in business and football terms. Don't see Spurs doing that?! the other was actually Luke Young but Spurs did sell Defoe, Carrick, Keane and Berbatov over 2 years Very good point, I think Spurs went through a strange period then, hence buying Defoe and Keane back. But they utilised there transfer funds better (another point of debate though). Just this summer for instance - Modric. Says it all really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Taken from Football 365 http://football365.com/f365-features/7400128/New-Year-Resolutions Aston Villa - Patience is a virtue (for now) Abusive graffiti on local walls and protests outside the stadium made for an uneasy introduction for Alex McLeish, and his footballing 'style' is often an insult to the noun. If you asked many Villa supporters, they would have asked Father Christmas for a new manager under their tree. But hear this: Aston Villa are no longer a top-six club, and should be sectioned with Fulham, Sunderland and Everton as the 'may do wells'. The club may have spent £24million on Darren Bent, but selling your best two midfielders negates such a purchase, and it is rare to discover a striker that does not rely on service. True, the club spent £16million in the summer (N'Zogbia, Given and Hutton) but all were replacements and, in any case, Stoke spent £18million and acquired two England internationals on free transfers. Petrov, Heskey, Dunne, Warnock, Given, Cuellar: all are aged 30 or more. McLeish has been dour but a club that has sold seven England internationals since the summer of 2009 was only going one way. The first club of England's second city needs rebuilding. McLeish may not be the long-term answer, but to lay the blame solely at his feet is the action of a naïve man Exactly, he's inherited a squad filled with ageing journeymen fixed to long contracts and high wages. Minus the performances from Petrov the above mentioned have been distinctly average for most of the season. It doesn't absolve his tactical oddities but it goes someway to explain how average our squad is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Taken from Football 365 http://football365.com/f365-features/7400128/New-Year-Resolutions Aston Villa - Patience is a virtue (for now) Abusive graffiti on local walls and protests outside the stadium made for an uneasy introduction for Alex McLeish, and his footballing 'style' is often an insult to the noun. If you asked many Villa supporters, they would have asked Father Christmas for a new manager under their tree. But hear this: Aston Villa are no longer a top-six club, and should be sectioned with Fulham, Sunderland and Everton as the 'may do wells'. The club may have spent £24million on Darren Bent, but selling your best two midfielders negates such a purchase, and it is rare to discover a striker that does not rely on service. True, the club spent £16million in the summer (N'Zogbia, Given and Hutton) but all were replacements and, in any case, Stoke spent £18million and acquired two England internationals on free transfers. Petrov, Heskey, Dunne, Warnock, Given, Cuellar: all are aged 30 or more. McLeish has been dour but a club that has sold seven England internationals since the summer of 2009 was only going one way. The first club of England's second city needs rebuilding. McLeish may not be the long-term answer, but to lay the blame solely at his feet is the action of a naïve man There is nothing there that we don't already know and willingly acknowledge. But the point that is constantly missed is the desire in the squad is nil. You can have a squad of certified journey men, no marks and cloggers but still at least give it a go. That attitude is completely devoid at VP and that rests squarely a the feet of the manager. Playing dull, brainless, "defensive" football is one thing but to surrender before sending the side out on the pitch is something else entirely. We have witnessed such on many occasions this season provoking the question..... "What's the point?" AM has to go. He, along with the adminstration, is ruining the club. AM is ruining the team all on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Taken from Football 365 http://football365.com/f365-features/7400128/New-Year-Resolutions Aston Villa - Patience is a virtue (for now) Abusive graffiti on local walls and protests outside the stadium made for an uneasy introduction for Alex McLeish, and his footballing 'style' is often an insult to the noun. If you asked many Villa supporters, they would have asked Father Christmas for a new manager under their tree. But hear this: Aston Villa are no longer a top-six club, and should be sectioned with Fulham, Sunderland and Everton as the 'may do wells'. The club may have spent £24million on Darren Bent, but selling your best two midfielders negates such a purchase, and it is rare to discover a striker that does not rely on service. True, the club spent £16million in the summer (N'Zogbia, Given and Hutton) but all were replacements and, in any case, Stoke spent £18million and acquired two England internationals on free transfers. Petrov, Heskey, Dunne, Warnock, Given, Cuellar: all are aged 30 or more. McLeish has been dour but a club that has sold seven England internationals since the summer of 2009 was only going one way. The first club of England's second city needs rebuilding. McLeish may not be the long-term answer, but to lay the blame solely at his feet is the action of a naïve man There is nothing there that we don't already know and willingly acknowledge. But the point that is constantly missed is the desire in the squad is nil. You can have a squad of certified journey men, no marks and cloggers but still at least give it a go. That attitude is completely devoid at VP and that rests squarely a the feet of the manager. Playing dull, brainless, "defensive" football is one thing but to surrender before sending the side out on the pitch is something else entirely. We have witnessed such on many occasions this season provoking the question..... "What's the point?" AM has to go. He, along with the adminstration, is ruining the club. AM is ruining the team all on his own. Perfectly put. AM and RL must go and also take the teletubby Faulkner with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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