BOF Posted March 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Dom_Wren said: Lost 28lbs in 40 days! How in the name ... was that party bloat or something? Or are you on the Karen Carpenter cutting diet? That's 2 stone in less than 6 weeks. Fuggin hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2016 33 minutes ago, mightysasquatch said: I've never butted in when someone's training no matter how awful it is. But when they walked out the barbell from the rack forwards I had to say something. I did that once for 2 kids who were clearly on their first visit and just going around having a shot on everything. You end up having to reverse the bar back onto the rack. Lethal if you've a decent weight on it. To this day I continue to be baffled by the amount of guys squatting fairly heavy weights (>100kg) on the spongiest trainers you can imagine That's another thing @Davkaus. Don't squat or deadlift (or any compound lift requiring foot balance) on spongy trainers like Nike Air. You don't have a solid base and you're constantly making miniscule corrections to your balance due to the sponginess. You can tweak a back muscle etc and injure yourself. You can either buy a pair of hard soled trainers or do it in stocking feet like many do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_Wren Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, BOF said: How in the name ... was that party bloat or something? Or are you on the Karen Carpenter cutting diet? That's 2 stone in less than 6 weeks. Fuggin hell. I gave up booze for lent. Coupled it with a diet that has worked for me in the past cutting weight and carried on with my normal lifting routine and added some walking. Still lifting same weight so thankfully strength has not been affected!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysasquatch Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 28 minutes ago, BOF said: I did that once for 2 kids who were clearly on their first visit and just going around having a shot on everything. You end up having to reverse the bar back onto the rack. Lethal if you've a decent weight on it. To this day I continue to be baffled by the amount of guys squatting fairly heavy weights (>100kg) on the spongiest trainers you can imagine That's another thing @Davkaus. Don't squat or deadlift (or any compound lift requiring foot balance) on spongy trainers like Nike Air. You don't have a solid base and you're constantly making miniscule corrections to your balance due to the sponginess. You can tweak a back muscle etc and injure yourself. You can either buy a pair of hard soled trainers or do it in stocking feet like many do. Great advice, I use reebok lites...just ashame they have crossfit plastered on them. But that's why God invented sharpies. These were (different design though) my first pair of shoes https://www.strengthshop.co.uk/clothing-footwear/footwear/strength-shop-coyotes-weightlifting-shoes-white-black.html Used them to my first couple of comps, great shoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysasquatch Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 These are what I use now which are also on sale http://m.reebok.co.uk/reebok-crossfit-lite-tr/M42786.html check the outlet section to, I got a pair for £50 from £150 last year to:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Well shit, my trainers have a squidgy Nike sole. I've read Converse are alright as they have a flat sole, and I have a battered pair of those lying around, think they'll do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2016 If you have any doubts then just take your shoes off and do it in your socks. You might feel silly the first time you do it but you'll be suprised by how many people squat this way. Wait on spending £50-100 on lifting shoes until you have been doing it a while and want to make a proper commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Well shit, my trainers have a squidgy Nike sole. I've read Converse are alright as they have a flat sole, and I have a battered pair of those lying around, think they'll do? They're fine. I use them sometimes. Mostly I have a pair of flat bottomed Nikes that I use. Can't do it in my socks. Don't know why. Never feels right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysasquatch Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 20 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Well shit, my trainers have a squidgy Nike sole. I've read Converse are alright as they have a flat sole, and I have a battered pair of those lying around, think they'll do? Converse are fine, the lites are kind of based on them but have a lip on the side of them as converse blow out on the sides eventually. But you'll be fine. desdliting bare foot is fine, I use to pull that way. Wouldn't squat in socks, unless your gym floor has some decent grip...sitting back in socks on a slippy floor isn't a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2016 I do all of that stuff in stocking feet because I wear Asics to the gym for the treadmill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, mightysasquatch said: Converse are fine, the lites are kind of based on them but have a lip on the side of them as converse blow out on the sides eventually. But you'll be fine. desdliting bare foot is fine, I use to pull that way. Wouldn't squat in socks, unless your gym floor has some decent grip...sitting back in socks on a slippy floor isn't a good idea. Socks and slippy floors is not a good idea, socks and pads/mats is fine though. If the floor is slippy go barefoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysasquatch Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: Socks and slippy floors is not a good idea, socks and pads/mats is fine though. If the floor is slippy go barefoot. Never forget the gym owner mopping the lifting platform between my squat session....absolute moron Edited March 24, 2016 by mightysasquatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2016 52 minutes ago, mightysasquatch said: Never forget the gym owner mopping the lifting platform between my squat session....absolute moron Could've been worse, imagine if you were mid-squat and ATF and he did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2016 Anyone ever tried the stronglifts 5x5 programme and have any feedback? http://stronglifts.com/5x5/ I'm not sure about doing the big compound exercises in every workout and three times a week, somehow seems counterproductive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2016 It's what I started on, based on advice in this very thread. It is brilliant. I still kind of do my own version of it to this day. It's a great way of getting a core strength because you start off very low and you increment 2.5kg at a time. That's a barely perceptible increment until you start to get towards your limit, but quick enough that if you keep succeeding each time out then you'll be in the decent weights fairly sharpish. Gives your body enough time to recover too. Best advice as always is to use the early periods of low weight to fine tune your technique & form to perfection. That way it's automatic when you're doing the heavier stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2016 I'm not sure I'd be able to recover quickly enough to do each exercise three times in one week, five year's ago maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2016 You don't do each exercise 3 times a week. You alternate all bar the squat. So on the basis that you go to the gym 3 times a week, you be doing them all maximum twice a week, some of them once a week and only the squat 3 times. Week 1 = A B A Week 2 = B A B etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2016 Week 1 Monday = Workout 1 : Squat, Bench, Barbell row (I substituted this for pendlay row as it's easier on the lower back) Wednesday = Workout 2 : Squat, Overhead, Deadlift Friday = Workout 1 : Squat, Bench, Barbell row Week 2 Monday = Workout 2 : Squat, Overhead, Deadlift Wednesday = Workout 1 : Squat, Bench, Barbell row Friday = Workout 2 : Squat, Overhead, Deadlift Week 3 reverts back to week 1. I found that there actually weren't enough reps in those workouts so you pad them out with other stuff that you like. For me things like bicep and tricep isolations. Seated rows. Maybe dumbbell shoulder press on the overhead day etc. My advice would always be to do the big compound lifts first though, otherwise you risk not having enough left in the tank for them if you leave them until last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted March 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2016 I think I misread the intro and focused on the squat every workout and assumed it was same for everything. Was going to read it in full if people said it was worth doing. Squat three times a week does sound a lot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2016 Just now, Rds1983 said: I think I misread the intro and focused on the squat every workout and assumed it was same for everything. Was going to read it in full if people said it was worth doing. Squat three times a week does sound a lot though. At the start you'll get bad DOMS from squats but it'll go away. Nothing quite like squat DOMS If you find squats 3 times a week too hard going then tailor it. But you won't find it that bad because you'll be starting off very light. Empty bar light. So by the time you are at the higher weights, you'll be long past the point of DOMS and you'll be more able to do it. That's the beauty of stronglifts. You have a core strength and a stamina built up by the time you get to the challenging weights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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