Jimzk5 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 At first glance that real shirt looks like a bayern munich away top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted December 26, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2012 To say that Barcelona 'playing on the Catalonia/voting thing' is a bit much if it's meant to be a slight on the club. Barcelona is the capital of Catalunya, and Barça is its most recognised and successful team. As a club, they are often seen to represent the nation of Catalonia, and they are a huge international symbol of Catalan identity (and this certainly not a recent development). This is reflected in the playing squad, which has a large Catalan contingent. During the recent push for independence, nowhere has seen a greater gathering of pro-independence supporters than at the Camp Nou during Barcelona matches, and these fans have been very vocal during the games, as well as displaying banners and flags reflecting their political stance. Barça aren't just jumping on this bandwagon; they play a huge part in this issue. However, I did read that Barça were going to decide against having their away shirt for next season be based on the flag, due to concerns that it may alienate some of their Castilian supporters, of which there are many, and possibly fans from further afield, too. Still, maybe they've gone with it after all, as I think that many of their foreign fans still agree with the idea of Catalonian independence despite it not being something that directly affects them. I can understand why the whole 'more than a club' idea annoys people, but it is rooted in the idea that FCB is a mouthpiece for the Catalan people. I'd agree that the club are commercialising this aspect, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing as to them it's bringing in money while also increasing awareness of the political cause of which they are a symbol. All of this is encapsulated in the 'identity' section of the club's website, which states that: FC Barcelona is “more than a club” in Catalonia because it is the sports club that most represents the country and is also one of its greatest ambassadors. The slogan “more than a club” is open-ended in meaning. It is perhaps this flexibility that makes it so appropriate for defining the complexities of FC Barcelona’s identity, a club that competes in a sporting sense on the field of play, but that also beats, every day, to the rhythm of its people’s concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 but politics and football should be kept apart and always thought UEFA had rules for clubs using political messages. Is this really that much different from the sectarian attitudes of the Glasgow clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted December 26, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2012 Real Madrid also stand opposite Barcelona as representatives of Spanish nationalism, although you could argue that their club isn't as politically motivated as Barça. But yes, although there may be obvious similarities, it's quite different to the rivalry between Celtic and Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I think you are reading a bit to much in my comments on Barca Troglodyte. I dont have any kind of personal agenda either way with regards to the political status of the place but I will agree that FC Barcelona are the unofficial national side of Catalonia (especially when you consider that the other team from that city are the Royal Spanish club of Barcelona) but making such a big statement of having an away kit which is essentially the flag of a region that has a serious chance of seceding from Spain in the not too distant future is worthy of comment. Barcelona are strengthening the sense of Catalan identity, will that strengthen the resolve for independence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted December 27, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) Yeah, I didn't particularly take your post as having an agenda, but villa4europe building on it by stating that they are 'playing on the recent voting' didn't sit well with me, as it seems to suggest that Barça have decided to cash in on the latest push for independence, when they are actually a major part of said push and have been since it existed. Again, though, I may still be reading too much into it and/or have come across as too defensive, which wasn't really the intention Edited December 27, 2012 by Troglodyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 i was on about nike not barca... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 FC Barcelona are 'more than a club' because under the oppressive Franco regime, the Nou Camp was one of the only places people could go and openly talk about issues that affected Catalan people. They really were more than a sports team at that time, they were almost a political entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The new green and black Villa keeper kit is ace, Guzan looks cool in that, I like the stripes on the socks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 FC Barcelona are 'more than a club' because under the oppressive Franco regime, the Nou Camp was one of the only places people could go and openly talk about issues that affected Catalan people. They really were more than a sports team at that time, they were almost a political entity. As was Real Madrid, essentially Franco's government club. Strange though, that during the height of Spanish isolationism, they were one of the first clubs to sign foreign players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 new international kits - seems strange to me how the france and brazil shirts are seemingly trying to do the same thing and yet the france one looks great and the brazil one shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 20, 2013 Moderator Share Posted January 20, 2013 I like that Brazil shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 more leaks - man city training kit - imlove the club america one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 that United shirt is very classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 that United shirt is very classy. It just looks like some generic red Polo shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Aren't utd being sponsered by Chevrolet next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 It just looks like some generic red Polo shirt. I really like it, same goes for the Man City home shirt this season. Simpler is often better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted January 21, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2013 I've said this before, but Man City's home kit this season is brilliant. Their away strip is great, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 the chevrolet deal doesnt start until after next season according to the messages that was on the website i got that from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I really like both of those Sweden kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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