kidlewis Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Who would you go down on to prevent us from going down? I will open the answers with Vanessa feltz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Does it suprise you? The bloke hasn't got a **** clue, I expect him to be like the Mad Hatter in the changing room charging around shouting "Change Places" much like our defence when faced with a player offering a small amount of movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I seem to be the only one with the view that behind a terrible result we played quite well at times, but with 10 men it was always going to be tough, especially as we have played all season with a sub standard strike force. But he's definitely lost the senior side of the dressing room, and if the rumour about Rangers keeper arriving is true, that will be the final straw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Omar Cummings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Omar Cummings You'd nom the sausage to keep us up? That's dedication. I am being serious about my answer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 From the Guardian Time running out for Gérard Houllier as Aston Villa's fans grow restless • Stilian Petrov urges manager to heal rift with John Carew • Next two games will decide Frenchman's future * Stuart James * The Guardian, Friday 7 January 2011 Gérard Houllier's position as Aston Villa manager is likely to become untenable if the club are knocked out of the FA Cup at Sheffield United and lose at Birmingham City on Sunday week. The Villa board have maintained Houllier's job is safe but, with supporters calling for the Frenchman to be sacked and discontent festering within the dressing room, Randy Lerner could be compelled to act if there is no immediate improvement in results. Although the club's owner is desperate for Houllier to succeed after he appointed the 63-year-old as Martin O'Neill's replacement in September, the dismal run of form that has plunged the club into the relegation zone for the first time in seven years, together with the unrest that surfaced after Wednesday night's 1-0 home defeat by Sunderland, when Villa fans chanted "You're getting sacked in the morning", has placed Lerner in a difficult position. Lerner has worked hard to rebuild bridges with fans disenchanted under the previous regime but the Villa owner risks damaging that relationship if he shows blind faith in Houllier. Sacking Houllier would be an admission that Villa made a mistake in appointing him in the first place but accepting that error – as Tottenham Hotspur did with Juande Ramos in 2008 – would be a small price to pay compared with the financial catastrophe of relegation to the Championship. Villa made a record loss in their last set of accounts, which showed their wage bill had climbed to £71m – £11m higher than Tottenham's – and the figures for the 2009-10 season are expected to be every bit as bad. Life outside the Premier League would deepen the pain. There is a bonus system in place for the players if they qualify for the Champions League but there is no provision in contracts for salaries to be cut in the event of relegation. The knee-jerk response to talk of Villa dropping into the Championship is that the club have far too many good players to go down. Yet that argument ignores the relegation form Villa have shown since Houllier took over – 14 points from 16 matches and only three league victories – and the growing disenchantment within a dressing room where the Frenchman's methods and approach to the job are a source of bemusement and frustration to many of the senior players. Wednesday night was a case in point. Having produced a sub-standard performance against Sunderland, which culminated in Villa's sixth defeat in eight league matches, the players were amazed when Houllier elected to praise rather than scold them. It is understood that on another occasion the Villa manager said next to nothing when he came into the dressing room at half-time, effectively leaving the players to conduct the team-talk themselves. Arguments with players have also been a feature of Houllier's reign, and Stilian Petrov, Villa's captain, placed the manager in an awkward position after the Sunderland game when he called on him to end his feud with John Carew. "I think the manager and [John] need to sort that out between themselves," Petrov said. "They are grown men and I think everything is about the club. If you want to have someone in the team you need to go and see what he can do. John has been a big figure here and we have missed him." Sources close to Carew say it is unlikely he will play for Houllier again and that he has made up his mind he wants to leave Villa. The Norwegian fell out with Houllier at Lyon and before the Frenchman was appointed at Villa Carew ranked him bottom in a list of the seven managers he had played under. Houllier has at least managed to reintegrate Richard Dunne into his plans after a training ground row but Paul Faulkner, Villa's chief executive, is believed to have played a key part in their rapprochement. Getting the Villa supporters back on side promises to be much more difficult. The reality is that the fans did not take to Houllier when he was unveiled and the combination of poor results and his bizarre behaviour at Anfield deepened their suspicion that he is not the right man for the job. It remains to be seen whether the FA Cup will provide some respite. "Where we are at the moment I will take staying in the Premier League," Petrov added. "I won't even care about the Cup. I am sorry to say that." http://tinyurl.com/3ym7xwu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jat_r Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Apparently Roy Keane has been sacked. Another manager who is free now too. Wouldn't want him here though. I doubt the crowd would sing anything negative to him, he would jump into the crowd and knock people out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Don't care about the cup stan but you need to tell the players to start giving a shot about the prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Apparently Roy Keane has been sacked. Another manager who is free now too. Wouldn't want him here though. I doubt the crowd would sing anything negative to him, he would jump into the crowd and knock people out. SSN also report that Norwich have refused Burnley permission to speak with Paul Lambert. WTF? He's too good for Burnley and reminds me of Moyes a lot. Could be an ideal, cheap replacement should GH leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Apparently Roy Keane has been sacked. Another manager who is free now too. Wouldn't want him here though. I doubt the crowd would sing anything negative to him, he would jump into the crowd and knock people out. SSN also report that Norwich have refused Burnley permission to speak with Paul Lambert. WTF? He's too good for Burnley and reminds me of Moyes a lot. Could be an ideal, cheap replacement should GH leave. I agree. Lambert is a very promising young manager who will do well when given the chance at a bigger club in the top flight. He as done a great job at Norwich and did very well at Colchester and Wycombe. Leaned his trade in the lower leagues and done his apprenticeship and for me would be a very good appointment for us. Young and hungry for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc89 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Apparently Roy Keane has been sacked. Another manager who is free now too. Wouldn't want him here though. I doubt the crowd would sing anything negative to him, he would jump into the crowd and knock people out. SSN also report that Norwich have refused Burnley permission to speak with Paul Lambert. WTF? He's too good for Burnley and reminds me of Moyes a lot. Could be an ideal, cheap replacement should GH leave. I agree. Lambert is a very promising young manager who will do well when given the chance at a bigger club in the top flight. He as done a great job at Norwich and did very well at Colchester and Wycombe. Leaned his trade in the lower leagues and done his apprenticeship and for me would be a very good appointment for us. Young and hungry for success.Mini-MON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Apparently Roy Keane has been sacked. Another manager who is free now too. Wouldn't want him here though. I doubt the crowd would sing anything negative to him, he would jump into the crowd and knock people out. SSN also report that Norwich have refused Burnley permission to speak with Paul Lambert. WTF? He's too good for Burnley and reminds me of Moyes a lot. Could be an ideal, cheap replacement should GH leave. I agree. Lambert is a very promising young manager who will do well when given the chance at a bigger club in the top flight. He as done a great job at Norwich and did very well at Colchester and Wycombe. Leaned his trade in the lower leagues and done his apprenticeship and for me would be a very good appointment for us. Young and hungry for success.Mini-MON. Maybe, but there's less hoofball from Lambert. Although MON's style of play is effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaRoy Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 "'We couldn’t believe what we were hearing,’ said one player. " Yeah nice one Daily Mail, a whole article based on one phrase from "one player" . Hate that paper. Saying that, wouldn't be suprised if Houllier said well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbertoAVFC Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 In fairness, "well done" and "one player"? Why not say who the player is you numpties if it's true. Can't really take this seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellyoakvilla Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Nice one Sportsmail Reporter, love how reliable you are that you can't even state your name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 So what did he say. No quotes about the praise he gave so i think its BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Does it suprise you? The bloke hasn't got a **** clue, I expect him to be like the Mad Hatter in the changing room charging around shouting "Change Places" much like our defence when faced with a player offering a small amount of movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran_villa Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Does it suprise you? The bloke hasn't got a **** clue, I expect him to be like the Mad Hatter in the changing room charging around shouting "Change Places" much like our defence when faced with a player offering a small amount of movement. Great manager though, he'll get all these quality young French players in with fancy name's :oops: .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Perhaps he was trying to maintain their self-confidence rather than just scream at them and tell them they're useless? Maybe he is aware there are some young kids in the squad and that yelling at them would do more harm than good? Not saying that's the case, just providing an alternative to the "take everything you hear about Houllier and believe the worst because it suits your view of the man" approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b6bloke Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Listen I want him out now but GH said after the game he felt they played well (his opinion and to be fair apart from the tactics they didnt do too bad first half) so if HE thought they did well I'm sure that it wasn't just "well done" that he said and there was more to it like "yes you lost but you played a hell of a lot better well done" Listen Mr Reporter will you leave the attempt to get him sacked to us please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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