troon_villan Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Pay the £10m Wigan want, sign him up and move on. The club has a massive rebuilding job on its hands. Why though? they accepted £9mil from sha in January, his contract is now shorter and he did very little in those six months to justify a hike in transfer fee's Wigan are taking the piss, move on You honestly think we're in a position to just 'move on'?? For the sake of an extra million quid when we've just fleeced Liverpool out of alot of money, it's crazy, if we don't get this guy(French international with proven Prem experience) who do you suggest we go for??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 He's worth more than £10m IMO. Considering we paid £12m each for both Downing and Milner, £10m is a bit of a bargain for a player of the same ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAFC2000 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Any one got any ITK info on this one - Whats the latest...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's not a winger is he? more of a less good Thierry Henry. Nope, he's a winger. Consider yourself corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 17, 2011 Moderator Share Posted July 17, 2011 Pay the £10m Wigan want, sign him up and move on. The club has a massive rebuilding job on its hands. Why though? they accepted £9mil from sha in January, his contract is now shorter and he did very little in those six months to justify a hike in transfer fee's Wigan are taking the piss, move on You honestly think we're in a position to just 'move on'?? For the sake of an extra million quid when we've just fleeced Liverpool out of alot of money, it's crazy, if we don't get this guy(French international with proven Prem experience) who do you suggest we go for??? a) we didn't fleece Liverpool, in fact I think they got a bargain I expect us to have a plan B, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndunse Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Pay the £10m Wigan want, sign him up and move on. The club has a massive rebuilding job on its hands. Why though? they accepted £9mil from sha in January, his contract is now shorter and he did very little in those six months to justify a hike in transfer fee's Wigan are taking the piss, move on To be fair, he did score a fair few goals in Wigan's run in last season (5 in 6, something like that?).....undeniably the key player that kept them in the Premier League - think he probably has justified the rise in value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-67 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I expect us to have a plan B, don't you? Plan B? I remain to be convinced that the Board and it's various management teams over the last 12 months didn't even have a plan A!! It's been a terrible 12 months and time to see the action we were promsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I expect us to have a plan B, don't you? Plan B? I remain to be convinced that the Board and it's various management teams over the last 12 months didn't even have a plan A!! It's been a terrible 12 months and time to see the action we were promsed. No doubt they make shit up as they go along, clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I expect us to have a plan B, don't you? A Plan B??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I expect us to have a plan B, don't you? Plan B? I remain to be convinced that the Board and it's various management teams over the last 12 months didn't even have a plan A!! It's been a terrible 12 months and time to see the action we were promsed. No doubt they make shit up as they go along, clueless. Bit like your posts then!! Bicks i don't think Liverpool got a bargin, they have got a very good player but they have payed good money for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Pay the £10m Wigan want, sign him up and move on. The club has a massive rebuilding job on its hands. Why though? they accepted £9mil from sha in January, his contract is now shorter and he did very little in those six months to justify a hike in transfer fee's Wigan are taking the piss, move on You honestly think we're in a position to just 'move on'?? For the sake of an extra million quid when we've just fleeced Liverpool out of alot of money, it's crazy, if we don't get this guy(French international with proven Prem experience) who do you suggest we go for??? a) we didn't fleece Liverpool, in fact I think they got a bargain I expect us to have a plan B, don't you? On point a) We'll need to agree to disagree as I don't think Downing is worth anywhere near £20m, I really took to him last season as he put in some great performances and got some important goals but he's just too one-footed for my liking and an intelligent full-back has no excuses IMO. On point Well, yeah, I would like to think so but I guess the whole point of a plan b is that it's a step down from plan a and we have no idea what that second option might be. If plan b is SWP/McGeady/Etherington.....etc, then I would rather pay a bit extra for N'zogbia. I don't think wanting £10m for N'Zogbia is taking the piss when we've got the best part of £40m for Young and Downing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 17, 2011 Moderator Share Posted July 17, 2011 Bicks i don't think Liverpool got a bargin, they have got a very good player but they have payed good money for him. Our player of the year last year (imo at least) with two years on his contract goes for just above what we got for Ashley Young with 1 year left on his contract (who wasn't as good as Downing last year), they got a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Bicks i don't think Liverpool got a bargin, they have got a very good player but they have payed good money for him. Our player of the year last year (imo at least) with two years on his contract goes for just above what we got for Ashley Young with 1 year left on his contract (who wasn't as good as Downing last year), they got a bargain Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I am pretty sure the final fee will be anything from 11 - 12.5M. Which is OK given our recent sale of Stewart Downing who was worth 16M tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Downing won player of the season but is not a match winner, Ashley young is. Downing is not worth even close to £20m, and as such we got a lot of money which we can invest in better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 17, 2011 Moderator Share Posted July 17, 2011 I am pretty sure the final fee will be anything from 11 - 12.5M. Which is OK given our recent sale of Stewart Downing who was worth 16M tops. If Downing was our entire summer budget would you think the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Bicks i don't think Liverpool got a bargin, they have got a very good player but they have payed good money for him. Our player of the year last year (imo at least) with two years on his contract goes for just above what we got for Ashley Young with 1 year left on his contract (who wasn't as good as Downing last year), they got a bargain Agreed. Disagreed. They paid the going rate for an above average English winger who they had mercilessly tapped up and had admitted stood out with his consistency in a terribly inconsistent team. Bargain he most certainly was not. He had a better season than Ash, granted. I would bet my soul on Ash having the much better career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 £20 million for him was a pretty 'fair price' for him given how silly the market is . It wasn't a ridiculous ammount at all. Certainly far from the "not going anywhere"/ £50 million figure being bandied about by our manager only 3 weeks ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I am pretty sure the final fee will be anything from 11 - 12.5M. Which is OK given our recent sale of Stewart Downing who was worth 16M tops.I have a sneaking suspicion N'Zogbia will go to Everton for £10m - the issue for him may be that he doesn't want to leave the North West. I also think Downing was worth every penny of his £20m but remain to be convinced McLeish will see the colour of all that money. I'll be happier than anyone else if I'm wrong about all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 17, 2011 Moderator Share Posted July 17, 2011 I am pretty sure the final fee will be anything from 11 - 12.5M. Which is OK given our recent sale of Stewart Downing who was worth 16M tops.I have a sneaking suspicion N'Zogbia will go to Everton for £10m - the issue for him may be that he doesn't want to leave the North West. I also think Downing was worth every penny of his £20m but remain to be convinced McLeish will see the colour of all that money. I'll be happier than anyone else if I'm wrong about all this. He wont be going to Everton, most of Everton's assets are defenders and they need to sell before they can buy anyone (and therefore replace said player too), the £2.5mil they got from the sale of Vaughn isn't going to come close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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