Mantis Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 We have won 2 premier league games under Houllier. We are absolute push overs away from home - and have dropped more when ahead than any other team. Houllier seems to command zero respect from players - there seems no pattern or style to the team - players are getting injured at the rate of two a week - Im off the fence - GH is fast becoming a disastrous appointment - really hope Randy dumps him next May. 14th for me.Oh my word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Watching Fulham V Man Citeh at min. Fulham really are shit and we couldn't even beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marstonvilla Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 smetrov, i take it your not a villa fan, but instead some rival supporter trying to get a response to your negative outburst, because even the most thick villa supporter can see that this season this is going to be a up and down season with regards to performences and results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 We have won 2 premier league games under Houllier. We are absolute push overs away from home - and have dropped more when ahead than any other team. Houllier seems to command zero respect from players - there seems no pattern or style to the team - players are getting injured at the rate of two a week - Im off the fence - GH is fast becoming a disastrous appointment - really hope Randy dumps him next May. 14th for me. Oh my word. Just what i was thinking I expected that comment from smetrov.. he is known for blaming GH since the day he signed the contract so nothing new there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmeedson Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Read the villa team sheet out today and try to guess the result, the knee jerk reactions are laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 smetrov, i take it your not a villa fan, but instead some rival supporter trying to get a response to your negative outburst, because even the most thick villa supporter can see that this season this is going to be a up and down season with regards to performences and results. Where are the ups ? - Beating Blackpool at home ? And why should that be the case - we are all talking here as if no other manager have ever taken over team once the season commenced ? Does it not concern you that the manager at times doesn't where Carew is ? - or know when Carlos Cuellar is going to be fit - or even what the problem is ? Does it not concern you when a senior pro can not even attend a game because of a virus - but then is well enough to be out with his mates at 2am in the morning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 smetrov, i take it your not a villa fan, but instead some rival supporter trying to get a response to your negative outburst, because even the most thick villa supporter can see that this season this is going to be a up and down season with regards to performences and results. Where are the ups ? - Beating Blackpool at home ? And why should that be the case - we are all talking here as if no other manager have ever taken over team once the season commenced ? Does it not concern you that the manager at times doesn't where Carew is ? - or know when Carlos Cuellar is going to be fit - or even what the problem is ? Does it not concern you when a senior pro can not even attend a game because of a virus - but then is well enough to be out with his mates at 2am in the morning ? Beating, Wolves, Burnley, Blackpool, Blackburn are obviously the up's. Performances against Chelsea, Man United, Tottenham, Fulham were also good displays, especially the latter three. Also, what are you on about? Houllier not knowing where Carew is....or when Cuellar is fit? :? Also, that's Ireland's decision not Houllier's....Ireland has a history of doing some strange things, but of course, that's Houllier's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 21, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2010 Just picking up on those 'ups' of Houlliers reign... IMO.. Against Wolves we were for pretty decent periods second best and snatched victory. Burnley we were pretty shit. Blackpool had vast swathes, first half especially, where we were bollocks. Blackpool being camped in our half is a sight I'll not forget in a hurry, especially as we had absolutely no clue what to do about it it seemed. The first Blackburn win we also seemed to grasp from the jaws of disappointment. Bearing that in mind I'm not that impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The first half against Blackpool we were indeed awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Just picking up on those 'ups' of Houlliers reign... IMO.. Against Wolves we were for pretty decent periods second best and snatched victory. Burnley we were pretty shit. Blackpool had vast swathes, first half especially, where we were bollocks. Blackpool being camped in our half is a sight I'll not forget in a hurry, especially as we had absolutely no clue what to do about it it seemed. The first Blackburn win we also seemed to grasp from the jaws of disappointment. Bearing that in mind I'm not that impressed. Okay, what are the downs then....because you could just counter the downs with a whole load of things and then at the end say 'bearing that in mind, I'm pretty impressed'....depends how you want to look at things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The only league game we have looked like winning this season was the first game against wet spam. The rest have been fingers crossed and a prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The only league game we have looked like winning this season was the first game against wet spam. The rest have been fingers crossed and a prayer. Man United...Blackpool we didn't play well but deserved to win. Fulham, deserved to win and had the chances too. Was 20 seconds away. Chelsea, had several great chances. Tottenham, were excellent on the break and I think we could of won had Heskey not been injured early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The only league game we have looked like winning this season was the first game against wet spam. The rest have been fingers crossed and a prayer. Man United...Blackpool we didn't play well but deserved to win. Fulham, deserved to win and had the chances too. Was 20 seconds away. Chelsea, had several great chances. Tottenham, were excellent on the break and I think we could have won had Heskey not been injured early on. Can't get anywhere on 'might have beens'. Man Utd = we didn't win, Blackpool = we won but we were lucky and they were better, Fulham = we didn't win, Chelsea = we didn't win, Tottenham = we didn't win. Of all the games mentioned we only won 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I voted 9th to 14th as I think we will finish about 12th. However, I also thought we would finish about 12th with The Quitter this season and so must he hence the decision to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 21, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2010 Just picking up on those 'ups' of Houlliers reign... IMO.. Against Wolves we were for pretty decent periods second best and snatched victory. Burnley we were pretty shit. Blackpool had vast swathes, first half especially, where we were bollocks. Blackpool being camped in our half is a sight I'll not forget in a hurry, especially as we had absolutely no clue what to do about it it seemed. The first Blackburn win we also seemed to grasp from the jaws of disappointment. Bearing that in mind I'm not that impressed. Okay, what are the downs then....because you could just counter the downs with a whole load of things and then at the end say 'bearing that in mind, I'm pretty impressed'....depends how you want to look at things. Well the thing is, for me, it's not just that I'm looking to put down the wins... I can think of about 3 genuinely good performances so far. Other than that, asides a few upsides like the arrival of Albrighton (how much you can lay that success at Houlliers door is debatable), it's been pretty universally mediocre at best. I haven't seen much to be enthused about. I'm not that impressed by passing a bit more. Still just my opinion. Others will disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 You take the first 4 choice centre midfielders from any team they will struggle. Look at Chelsea, they are shite without Lampard and Essien. So not only is this not Houlliers squad, 70% of it is **** injured. If you dont realise of undeerstand that your a **** idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 21, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2010 Are the injuries just unlucky or are they at least in part caused by the new regimes training schedule? This many big injuries is pretty unprecedented I think, and they've all come rather quickly. I'm of the line of thought that tends to think that these injuries are not just a case of bad luck, they're bad luck coupled to the training change, too much too soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker1234 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Too much too soon? The team needed it. Don't you remember what Lampard said last season...They knew we would tire in the second half....Which was what we did most of last season.....Since they've had that new training the team have been running right until the final whistle. Yes we've lost goals late on, but it's not because we've been tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Just picking up on those 'ups' of Houlliers reign... IMO.. Against Wolves we were for pretty decent periods second best and snatched victory. Burnley we were pretty shit. Blackpool had vast swathes, first half especially, where we were bollocks. Blackpool being camped in our half is a sight I'll not forget in a hurry, especially as we had absolutely no clue what to do about it it seemed. The first Blackburn win we also seemed to grasp from the jaws of disappointment. Bearing that in mind I'm not that impressed. Okay, what are the downs then....because you could just counter the downs with a whole load of things and then at the end say 'bearing that in mind, I'm pretty impressed'....depends how you want to look at things. Well the thing is, for me, it's not just that I'm looking to put down the wins... I can think of about 3 genuinely good performances so far. Other than that, asides a few upsides like the arrival of Albrighton (how much you can lay that success at Houlliers door is debatable), it's been pretty universally mediocre at best. I haven't seen much to be enthused about. I'm not that impressed by passing a bit more. Still just my opinion. Others will disagree. Okay but I'll give you three. Man United, Fulham, Tottenham. Two of which, we concede late goals in games we should of won. The other Tottenham, we had enough chances to win the game and also the story of our season, an injury killed us when Heskey on fire at the time, had to come off for who at the time, in dire form, Carew. Results aren't great but performances have been decent, I can't think of a game yet I've watched and thought 'we deserved to lose that'. Under Houllier anyway. Games like Newcastle are performances I'd be worried about. Not today. The reason we lost is because we got done by two set-peices, which isn't surprising when your forced to play a side pretty much all under 6 ft, apart 2/3, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jondaken Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Bottom half, but not battling for relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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