Richard Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 AFter the savaging of the two girls by a fox there have been suggestions that we should carry out a cull of urban foxes. Some people, however, say that killing a fox just means another will take its place. Where do you stand on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 8, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2010 I was wondering when this would turn up. Are we having a problem with foxes ravaging children? If we are they're keeping it quiet. So does that make this an isolated and sad freak occurence? Yes. So no to a cull. EDIT - and it seems the mother left a door open... little bit of guilt there herself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I was wondering when this would turn up. Are we having a problem with foxes ravaging children? If we are they're keeping it quiet. So does that make this an isolated and sad freak occurence? Yes. So no to a cull. Pretty much agree Chind. Its the same as when a dog attacks a child (which happens a lot more often), do we then say all dogs should be should culled? No. So its a no from me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarpet Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 to me it just seems like a one off incident. Foxes i have come across are scared of humans and run off straight away, this one wasn't scared even when face with two fully grown adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claret75 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I was wondering when this would turn up. Are we having a problem with foxes ravaging children? If we are they're keeping it quiet. So does that make this an isolated and sad freak occurence? Yes. So no to a cull. EDIT - and it seems the mother left a door open... little bit of guilt there herself? :nod: I've never heard of this happening before. Its sad and unfortunate but a cull would be over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 No. However I've been getting more round my area recently because the neighbours got some chickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 8, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2010 As Chind suggested, if this was happening every week then maybe. But a one off freak accident doesn't justify a culling. it's a tragic accident and I feel sorry for the parents. There are times when you hear about kids getting mauled by dogs but the parents have left a 40kg german shepherd babysitting their 1 week old son and you just think "What the **** were you thinking?!" But in this case they didn't do anything wrong. Millions of people would have had their doors open hat night because of the heat. Just a one in a million accident I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 The young also make a horrible noise, like a shrieking woman. Eerie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Maybe the foxes have decided on a 'human cull' after the diabolical way they are treated by toff types on horseback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Millions of people would have had their doors open hat night because of the heat. Just a one in a million accident I'm afraid It happened during the day which makes it even more of a freak event. Very very sad. But as i said in my previous post, its more of a common thing to hear of dogs mauling kids, but no-one suggests we cull all the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Cull? No chance, enough of em get splattered on the roads already. as for the foxes attacking sleeping kids.........if I was a copper my nose would be twitching like the **** clappers over this "incident" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTheVillan Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I've been feeding 4 foxes in my garden for years.....they're still very wary & wild & though they will come up close there's no way they'd put themselves at risk of coming into direct contact with me let alone sneak in the house for a rummage. Leave them alone, it's not their fault we've overtaken their natural habitat & they now have to deal with our filtyh dirty ways let alone cars. There is more to this story than is immediately obvious..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturdaygig Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 it seems the mother left a door open... little bit of guilt there herself? whaaattt?? Leaving the door open is a crime now? No to a cull though, would achieve nowt, there's millions of the things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 It wouldn't have happened if the woman had bought a beagle so it's entirely her own fault no to the cull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarry Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I think they used to be culled about 10 years ago. I certainly remember a friend saying he overlooked a garden that was full of them, and they all disappeared over night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 No need for a cull. The incident in East London was unfortunate, but if reading the news reports is anything to go by its one of those random things that just happens from time to time. Foxes are common in cities (they are very good at living amongst people and they have figured out that people will leave them alone) and it seems they were especially common in that part of London. Neighbours said that they saw foxes all the time in their back yards and seeing one was just a normal every day occurrence. The fox managed to get in the house through an upstairs window apparently, it was hot this weekend so its not unreasonable for people to have a window open, but fox attacks on humans are ridiculously rare. Some fox expert the news wheeled out the other day said its the first attack he has known on humans in 40 years. Shooting all the foxes might make the mum feel a bit better for five minutes, but thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 8, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2010 it seems the mother left a door open... little bit of guilt there herself? whaaattt?? Leaving the door open is a crime now? No to a cull though, would achieve nowt, there's millions of the things Of course I'm not saying leaving your door open is a crime but I am saying that by leaving the door open, she is complicit in letting the animal into the house, if she hadn't this doesn't happen. Now that doesn't stop this being a freak accident, but she's still not without some blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSufferingVilla Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Like humans most foxes aren't mad but then every so often you get one that goes **** Derrick Bird insane, just like we have in this case. It's not like there's calls to cull every rural taxi driver now is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Like humans most foxes aren't mad but then every so often you get one that goes **** Derrick Bird insane, just like we have in this case. It's not like there's calls to cull every rural taxi driver now is there? Unless they live in Formby? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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