HanoiVillan Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, useless said: Here's a list of the nation's best selling books. 'It's not top on this list: that's got Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code at number one, followed by the Harry Potter novels. ? I didn't say best-selling, I said best-loved, and named the survey . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I didn't say what you did or didn't say lol. Besides, if your talking about the best loved doesn't it follow that people would have bought them and so they'd also be the best selling? Not trying to knock Jane Austen, I just linked that list to show that popular opinion isn't always an indicator of quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 hmmm, newspaper stats can be all a bit, skewed it would appear Jane A has sold 4 times more books that best selling book of all time..... Pride and Prejudice - 20,000,000 copies and counting... Quote Two hundred years after it was first published, Pride and Prejudice has now sold more than 20 million copies in music news, Snakehips Featuring Tinashe and Chance are currently outselling Mozart, Bach and Shostakovich combined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 49 minutes ago, useless said: I didn't say what you did or didn't say lol. Besides, if your talking about the best loved doesn't it follow that people would have bought them and so they'd also be the best selling? Not trying to knock Jane Austen, I just linked that list to show that popular opinion isn't always an indicator of quality. Sorry, I thought you were accusing me of lying! My bad. The number of copies sold and the esteem the book is held on are obviously correlated, but with plenty of exceptions; loads of people bought The Da Vinci Code but I haven't yet met anyone who said it's their favourite book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I'm not altogether sure what I was doing. I suppose a lot of people will have books from authors like Jane Austen in the family library so there's no need to go out and buy it. Plus these days you can read the classics for free on ebooks and whatever else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 A barrel of oil is now cheaper than an oil barrel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 19, 2016 Author VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2016 2 hours ago, useless said: I just linked that list to show that popular opinion isn't always an indicator of quality. That's true, but I'd say it's a better indication than sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) I was equating popular opinion with sales. Not that there's anything wrong with liking popular stuff. I just wasn't very impressed with the books on that particular list. Edited January 19, 2016 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 7 hours ago, Stevo985 said: That's true, but I'd say it's a better indication than sales. Neither are great, tbh, obviously sales don't mean that the buyers actually think the book is any good, but I don't take any notice of things like books people say that they've read and loved in a poll. I know a bunch of people who'd list the likes of Pride and Prejudice, and War and Peace in their list favourite books, just for appearances, when they've never read them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 12 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: She wrote some of the nation's favourite novels. Pride & Prejudice was 2nd in the Big Read - ie, the largest ever vote by the British public on their favourite novels, not by critics - and both Persuasion and Emma were in the top 50. Don't confuse the fact that you don't like something with it 'putting kids off reading for life'. That was just hipsters voting for something they thought would make them look hip and clever as they read it on a guardian list of books you must like if you wish to appear hip and clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I didn't like Pride & Prejudice. Sure, it is satire, but it wears thin very quickly for anyone who finds middle-class twerps fussing about marriage anything other than mind-numbingly dull. Plenty of interesting stuff in it, but a tedious read all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, CarewsEyebrowDesigner said: I didn't like Pride & Prejudice. Sure, it is satire, but it wears thin very quickly for anyone who finds middle-class twerps fussing about marriage anything other than mind-numbingly dull. Plenty of interesting stuff in it, but a tedious read all the same. Despite your profile picture, I have reason to believe you're not part of the main demographic group that enjoys P & P . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 now we are talking Jane Austen's classic tale of the tangled relationships between lovers from different social classes in 19th century England is faced with a new challenge -- an army of undead zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: now we are talking My wife read that book. She loved it. But then again, she loves anything to do with Zombies We did a Zombie run called 2.8 hours later in Sheffield when she was 5 months pregnant.. pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2016 She wrote some of the nation's favourite novels. Pride & Prejudice was 2nd in the Big Read - ie, the largest ever vote by the British public on their favourite novels, not by critics - and both Persuasion and Emma were in the top 50. Don't confuse the fact that you don't like something with it 'putting kids off reading for life'. That was just hipsters voting for something they thought would make them look hip and clever as they read it on a guardian list of books you must like if you wish to appear hip and clever. [emoji4] You are wrong, and displaying inverted snobbery. BTW, War and Peace is one of my favourite books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 13 minutes ago, mjmooney said: You are wrong, and displaying inverted snobbery. BTW, War and Peace is one of my favourite books. I'd have thought the "comedy" was obvious but I guess not , VT does seem to have got very touchy to irreverent posts of late .. but tbh any lists are bollocks in the main be it best guitarists or best film or the nations favourite serial killer ... it's all subjective , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm compiling a list of the nation's favourite lists: 1.0 Shopping 2.0 Celbrity nip slips 3.0 Funny pictures of Ed Milliband 4.0 Cat gifs 5.0 Funny Vines whatever they are 6.0 Curry 7.0 Old TV Comedies 8.0 Questions I've answered on UC / Mastermind the list isn't finished, I still need to include more Rachel Riley, a dig at Piers Morgan, Top Gear and fish fingers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2016 You are wrong, and displaying inverted snobbery. BTW, War and Peace is one of my favourite books. I'd have thought the "comedy" was obvious but I guess not , VT does seem to have got very touchy to irreverent posts of late .. but tbh any lists are bollocks in the main be it best guitarists or best film or the nations favourite serial killer ... it's all subjective , Yeah, sorry. Irony fail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 35 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I'm compiling a list of the nation's favourite lists: 1.0 Shopping 2.0 Celbrity nip slips 3.0 Funny pictures of Ed Milliband 4.0 Cat gifs 5.0 Funny Vines whatever they are 6.0 Curry 7.0 Old TV Comedies 8.0 Questions I've answered on UC / Mastermind the list isn't finished, I still need to include more Rachel Riley, a dig at Piers Morgan, Top Gear and fish fingers the nations favourite fish fingers is a TV show I need to see ..maybe we can combine it with the Rachel Riley program (snigger) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2016 I think this new one about phone salesmen is the bottom of the barrel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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