troon_villan Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 28, 2015 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) Calling Kanye West the best Rapper is like calling Russell Watson the world's best opera singer.He's not the best, certainly not ever. But he's certainly up there. He's certainly better than a comparison to Carling Edited June 28, 2015 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2015 Kanye do John Peel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 There are loads of better rappers out there than Kanye West. There are indeed. The problem is that for a lot of people he would be the first sample of Hip Hop/Rap and that's like your first exposure to alcohol being a tepid pint of Carling. Awwww come on dude, that's just plain wrong. You're making out like he's some kind of shit, mainstream 'pop hop' act. I absolutely get why people think he's an idiot, but musically? He's right up there. I can't believe the hate he gets to be honest. He's made 6 superb albums back to back, taking massive risks in the process. He's never tried to make deliberately radio friendly albums, or just carried on churning out the same old shite. Whether you like the music he makes or not, I think he deserves respect for the way he makes it. He's the hip hop version of Radiohead in that respect. I thought he was good overall last night. A brilliant opening and a brilliant end, let down a bit by a stodgy middle segment and some bad DJ'ing at times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 So...what does Kanye actually do? He doesn't seem to play any instruments, the bits where he attempted to sing were hilariously bad, and he doesn't seem to write his own songs (at least, not without a load of contributing writers for every song..). Is he anything more than a face for the posters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 he gets the hate because hes an utter bellend his music is ok, usually 2/3 good songs on each album but a lot of filler imo, im not sure if he does do half of the stuff on purpose, courts controversy to sell records, which i also hate, some of the time that i listen to him and his lyrics and think he is incredibly bitter and at times overtly racist, homophobic and incredibly ignorant (his opinion on aids for example) this "artist" stuff is utter bollocks he'll end up one of the biggest selling hip hop artists of all time, up there with jay-z, and i dont rate either of them if im honest, both of them just know the business side of their trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 currently watching lionel smash it up, sat at home watching it on tv and the flags are doing my head in, would infuriate me if i was there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 28, 2015 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2015 There are loads of better rappers out there than Kanye West. There are indeed. The problem is that for a lot of people he would be the first sample of Hip Hop/Rap and that's like your first exposure to alcohol being a tepid pint of Carling. Awwww come on dude, that's just plain wrong. You're making out like he's some kind of shit, mainstream 'pop hop' act. I absolutely get why people think he's an idiot, but musically? He's right up there. I can't believe the hate he gets to be honest. He's made 6 superb albums back to back, taking massive risks in the process. He's never tried to make deliberately radio friendly albums, or just carried on churning out the same old shite. Whether you like the music he makes or not, I think he deserves respect for the way he makes it. He's the hip hop version of Radiohead in that respect. I thought he was good overall last night. A brilliant opening and a brilliant end, let down a bit by a stodgy middle segment and some bad DJ'ing at times. Couldn't have put it better, and your opinion of his set is exactly the same as mine. The bit in the middle where he did more singing (which he can't do) and ballady stuff was a bit weak. Start and end was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 His personality doesn't bother me at all, I wouldn't like to dislike someone just because they're confident, Bragging has always played a big part in rap.. A lot of rappers have a similar act, they just don't have as bigger stage as Kanye West to showcase it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 This weekend has been knackering. Out all day yesterday for a friends birthday. I rarely drink much but we were drinking from 1pm until around 11.30. Then today was spent babysitting my girlfriend's 1-year-old niece. I'm drained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Kanye is one of them celebs/artists where fame and money went to his head and totally changed him. U can see it all through his albums when he started of so humble and is a egotistical maniac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 28, 2015 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2015 And if Yeezus and Dark Twisted Fantasy are anything to go by, his music hasn't suffered one bit. Arguably it's even better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 And a huge racist too. Can't stand the prick. But let's worship and reward the arseholes of the world. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wazzap24 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Kanye is one of them celebs/artists where fame and money went to his head and totally changed him. U can see it all through his albums when he started of so humble and is a egotistical maniac. What Stevo said. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is his Magnus Opus. It's an unbelievable record. A genuine 10/10 work of all killer no filler brilliance. It's one those genre-less albums that any music fan should listen to . His most critically acclaimed album, yet his worst performing commercially. He could have just kept making albums full of old soul samples and summer beats, milking that cash cow would have been far bigger in sales than 808's, MBDTF and Yeezus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Chemical Bros tearing it up al Glastonbury - brilliant set so far - great visuals on BBC 3 HD 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Hes a better producer than he is a rapper. He appeals to the casual hiphop/rap fan but not the hardcore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Why is Kanye racist out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Chemical Bros tearing it up al Glastonbury - brilliant set so far - great visuals on BBC 3 HD Hope they tour soon. Truly awesome experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Why is Kanye racist out of interest? To me he seems bitter and angry at the established rich America holding back and depriving young Americans, which I don't think is anything new in rap, however he isn't shy in the slightest in saying that it's wealthy white man and a deprived black man Off the top of my head there's a bit in all falls down about black society being ruined by possessions and then drugs which ends with "and the white man gets paid off of all of that" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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