Rightdm00 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Darwin is on the bench. I mean Klopp has to right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Plop should be two up.robbed us that was onside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Genie said: He must be the most underrated manager of the last 20 years. The epitomy of a safe pair of hands. A totally likeable, knowledgeable gentleman. In the same bracket of both Sir Bobby and Sir Graham in their underated status. Gentleman and bloody good coaches and managers Edited September 30, 2023 by stewiek2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 BeIn Sports drawing the line, apparently using 'FIFA recognised' technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: What are we missing? People don't realise how misleading these views can be without the lines. Not much in the decision, but good call. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Sky have the image with lines apparently, not showing it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I think they've dropped a bollock there, no way it was offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: Sky have the image with lines apparently, not showing it though Kelly Cates just said they haven't been given it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Just now, sharkyvilla said: Kelly Cates just said they haven't been given it I thought she said 'we have got it but the 2nd half is starting' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 It looked really onside to me too Have the official lines been released yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, sharkyvilla said: I think they've dropped a bollock there, no way it was offside The one possibility before I jump on the bandwagon of "sack the VAR tonight" is the angle we see above has the ball obscured by the player, and there might be an angle that better shows when the pass is played, which might only be fractions of a second difference but enough to change the outcome. It's why I refuse to accept "offside is a matter of absolute fact", close calls like this can absolutely be fixed by a bad actor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: The one possibility before I jump on the bandwagon of "sack the VAR tonight" is the angle we see above has the ball obscured by the player, and there might be an angle that better shows when the pass is played, which might only be fractions of a second difference but enough to change the outcome. It's why I refuse to accept "offside is a matter of absolute fact", close calls like this can absolutely be fixed by a bad actor I think that would make sense on those exceptionally close ones, but this looks a good half metre on. I'm not sure what a different ball contact point would do Edited September 30, 2023 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: The one possibility before I jump on the bandwagon of "sack the VAR tonight" is the angle we see above has the ball obscured by the player, and there might be an angle that better shows when the pass is played, which might only be fractions of a second difference but enough to change the outcome. It's why I refuse to accept "offside is a matter of absolute fact", close calls like this can absolutely be fixed by a bad actor The frame VAR appeared to be using is the one above, we could see everything apart from the lines themselves. Very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Alisson world class saves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Liverpool's midfield looks very open on paper Jota-Szoboszlai-McAllister-Diaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Davkaus said: The one possibility before I jump on the bandwagon of "sack the VAR tonight" is the angle we see above has the ball obscured by the player, and there might be an angle that better shows when the pass is played, which might only be fractions of a second difference but enough to change the outcome. It's why I refuse to accept "offside is a matter of absolute fact", close calls like this can absolutely be fixed by a bad actor When they showed it at half time it still looked like onside at the point you could visibly see the ball. The automated offside system has a sensor in the ball I think so wouldn't be an issue. I can't believe they don't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: I think that would make sense on those exceptionally close ones, but this looks a good half metre on. I'm not sure what a different ball contact point would do Clutching at straws trying to come up with an innocent explanation tbh, because if the outcome is "whoops, it was a mistake, we'll apologise", the VAR needs sacking. If you can not only get it right with such a clear call but with freeze frames and can pause the game to take your time to check....And not only get it wrong, but also don't seem to have used all the tools at your disposal, something stinks We have on occasion all jumped on a wrong offside decision that it turns out was misleading on TV and looked correct after the fact, so I'm hedging my bets until we see what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Gomez is bad. Playing like Chambers v Warsaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: Clutching at straws trying to come up with an innocent explanation tbh, because if the outcome is "whoops, it was a mistake, we'll apologise", the VAR needs sacking. If you can not only get it right with such a clear call but with freeze frames and can pause the game to take your time to check....And not only get it wrong, but also don't seem to have used all the tools at your disposal, something stinks We have on occasion all jumped on a wrong offside decision that it turns out was misleading on TV and looked correct after the fact, so I'm hedging my bets until we see what happened Yeah that's sensible. But with the pitch lines here I can't see anything other than a huge mistake IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Simon Hooper always looks like he's going to cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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