AntrimBlack Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Plenty of other clubs, because we are clearly on the up, will be happy to put the boot into us. Do we really need to be kicking ourselves? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, est1874 said: It may not be racist it's a bloody stupid thing to do in the 21st century, and an intelligent man should know better. Culture my arse, I know plenty of Spanish folk who'd never dream of doing something like that. The idiot. I'm more interested in his football credentials, as opposed to negatives. I find it sad, that some feel a need to deviate away from that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Plenty of other clubs, because we are clearly on the up, will be happy to put the boot into us. Do we really need to be kicking ourselves? If it's wrong, it's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, est1874 said: If it's wrong, it's wrong. Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Id rather judge the man by the job he does, not some involvement in a traditional Spanish religious festival a few years ago. I doubt he's going to turn up at BMH black face. It's not like Trudeau who donned black face at a party, or lady Gaga being at a party where gay men were all black faced. It was a traditional religious event FFS. Calm down folks. Edited June 17, 2023 by stewiek2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, est1874 said: The cognitive dissonance here is very real. Are you english by any chance? Out there protesting in front of the museum which contains thousands of items your country has pillaged from black people all over the world? I don't agree with what Monchi has done but a lot of people here need to take a good look in their own backyard before piping up like this is the worst thing in the world. It gets in the way of any real conversation and silencing the voices who matter the most. Grow up. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2023 Proud woke leftie here and I'm giving the benefit of the doubt on this one and put this more the 'ignorant' category than 'racist'...but that's just my personal view and I fully acknowledge that it's not up to me as a white person to say what people should or shouldn't be offended by Be good to hear the views of more people of colour on this matter because there's actually very few articles relating to this festival that I can find and you'd think there would be more outrage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted June 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2023 lol an almost perfect milkshake duck. The dark side of Spanish culture I’m afraid. Wait until you hear what they do with bulls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, tomav84 said: Proud woke leftie here and I'm giving the benefit of the doubt on this one and put this more the 'ignorant' category than 'racist'...but that's just my personal view and I fully acknowledge that it's not up to me as a white person to say what people should or shouldn't be offended by Be good to hear the views of more people of colour on this matter because there's actually very few articles relating to this festival that I can find and you'd think there would be more outrage I think there’s far bigger issues (racist ones too) than a tradition which is a bit backwards but sounds like it’s running it’s course in other Spanish Cities. You’ll notice several non white posters have posted their views and not one are offended or upset with Monchi. Edited June 17, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted June 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) http://Racism Part two https://www.villatalk.com/topic/18478-racism-part-two/ Maybe move the discussion here? Edited June 17, 2023 by sne 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jas10 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just feel that both Unai and Monchi will have greater freedom and capacity here than at previous clubs (probably what attracted them to the job), less interference and restrictions. Monchi may be able to target a higher level of player and spend a bit more freely. Backed by NSWE and their ambition. Still, this is impressive: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Looks like a skinhead rallying up the rest of the clan for a pillaging with his bullhorn.... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Looks like a skinhead rallying up the rest of the clan for a pillaging with his bullhorn.... I hear he asked to be named Grand Imperial Wizard but the club said no. That 's why the negotiations took time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jas10 Posted June 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Pretty frustrated at that account that has mouthed off actually. Why not mention it as soon as he was linked? Say then I hope he isn't appointed because of this and I think he's a racist. Commit. He waited for maximum impact. He doesn't care about racism. He cares about attention. Dweeb. I mean, if he actually intended to do some research he could’ve looked into and shared some of Monchi’s anti racism quotes etc. too But na, nothing like controversy and inflammatory comments to attract and rile the masses it’s how the internet and social media works I’m afraid…all about the clicks and traffic. Disappointed in the lad because his analytical stuff is quite interesting (he’s been on a few podcasts and spaces with the likes of Bardell and Bracey too) but he’s had a bit of a mare here… No need for me or anyone else to say much more, a few posters have already covered it well here and I think it’s best we move on. Edited June 17, 2023 by Jas10 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I think there’s far bigger issues (racist ones too) than a tradition which is a bit backwards but sounds like it’s running it’s course in other Spanish Cities. You’ll notice several non white posters have posted their views and not one are offended or upset with Monchi. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Back OT… Monchi doesn’t start work until July? How does that affect our transfer activity? Lange in charge for now? Can Monchi advise until then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, Jas10 said: Back OT… Monchi doesn’t start work until July? How does that affect our transfer activity? Lange in charge for now? Can Monchi advise until then? I may be wrong but Monchi will be on gardening leave at the moment. I’m sure he has a lot of personal things to sort out but on his wages I’m sure they will be handed off to someone else. The key here is he isn’t getting paid by Villa until July, but I know from experience he will start straight away. He won’t be at Villa but he will be an integral part of any discussions that are going on. I expect if he knew the Villa deal was going to happen he had been working behind the scenes with UE for the last few weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Last post on the non footballing topic which shows the other side Quote Although we are of a different colour... we are equal': Roma director Monchi shows solidarity with Napoli's Kalidou Koulibaly amid Serie A race storm Kalidou Koulibaly was subjected to racist abuse in Napoli's 1-0 loss at Inter Milan The defender, 27, was subjected to monkey chants from sections of the San Siro Roma director Monchi reacted by offering support to Koulibaly via Instagram Monchi wrote the words: 'Although we are of a different colour... we are equal' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6535531/Roma-chief-Monchi-supports-Napoli-ace-Kalidou-Koulibaly-racism-row.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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