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Race for Champions League - 2023/2024


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3 minutes ago, Hev said:

Well we are almost where the media want us now - not quite  though because plucky little Aston Villa surely should not be qualifying for the CL. If not one of the so called big 6, surely it should be everyone's supposed second team Newcastle. 🤮🙄. They will be so thrilled to see Spurs in 4th though. Sickening.  They all love big Ange so much too😡

Sorry but this is absolute bollocks. The media have been praising us all season and have constantly ridiculed Spurs for years because they wont win anything with talented teams.

But by all means play the victim card if you like. Everyone's out to get Aston Villa. We're turning into Liverpool fans it seems.

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Just now, allani said:

We've dropped 5 points having taken the lead in matches this season.  Spurs have dropped 20.  But yeah apart from that.....

And yet they're above us with a game in hand and superior goal difference.

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3 minutes ago, DeepDish said:

Does that also mean that we will beat Chelsea too? As they are on the beach?

Yes I would think so. But its their game in hand so if they win that they are 3 points ahead with a far superior GD.

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Spurs Fixtures:

Newcastle (A)    
Arsenal (H)    
Chelsea (A)
Liverpool (A)
Man City (H)    
Burnley (H)    
Sheffield Utd (A)    

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Villa Fixtures:
Arsenal (A)    
Bournemouth (H)    
Chelsea (H)    
Brighton (A)    
Liverpool (H)    
Crystal Palace (A)    

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Who Picks up more points and grabs 4th?
 

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2 minutes ago, R.Bear said:

Sorry but this is absolute bollocks. The media have been praising us all season and have constantly ridiculed Spurs for years because they wont win anything with talented teams.

But by all means play the victim card if you like. Everyone's out to get Aston Villa. We're turning into Liverpool fans it seems.

Fair enough. Just my opinion

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2 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

Wasn't this the second time all season we've dropped points from a winning position? We're literally the most resolute team in the league in this regard.

We had a chance to go top at Xmas and failed to beat bottom of the league at home, scraping a last minute draw we didnt deserve.

We had a chance to make a statement win against Spurs at home and got thrashed.

We had a chance to put the pressure on Spurs by playing before them and bottled a 2-0 lead.

We're mentally fragile in big games.

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7 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said:

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Spurs Fixtures:

Newcastle (A)    
Arsenal (H)    
Chelsea (A)
Liverpool (A)
Man City (H)    
Burnley (H)    
Sheffield Utd (A)    

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Villa Fixtures:
Arsenal (A)    
Bournemouth (H)    
Chelsea (H)    
Brighton (A)    
Liverpool (H)    
Crystal Palace (A)    

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Who Picks up more points and grabs 4th?
 

"Do you want to bet against us?"

We're in poor form for sure and can't  select consistently because of injuries and suspensions and we do look fragile. Looks unlikely at the moment, but it's  really all up for grabs. 

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1 minute ago, Pongo Waring said:

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Spurs Fixtures:

Newcastle (A)    
Arsenal (H)    
Chelsea (A)
Liverpool (A)
Man City (H)    
Burnley (H)    
Sheffield Utd (A)    

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Villa Fixtures:
Arsenal (A)    
Bournemouth (H)    
Chelsea (H)    
Brighton (A)    
Liverpool (H)    
Crystal Palace (A)    

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Who Picks up more points and grabs 4th?
 

I have Spurs at 70 points.

Not sure about us.

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As I've shown in my previous posts if Dortmund and Bayern exit then it's all but guaranteed. As long as Liverpool and Us or City go through 

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5 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said:

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Spurs Fixtures:

Newcastle (A)  1
Arsenal (H)   1 
Chelsea (A) 3
Liverpool (A) 0
Man City (H)   0
Burnley (H)   3 
Sheffield Utd (A)    3

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Villa Fixtures:
Arsenal (A)    0
Bournemouth (H)    3
Chelsea (H)    3
Brighton (A)    1
Liverpool (H)    0
Crystal Palace (A)    3

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Who Picks up more points and grabs 4th?
 

11 vs 10

The Chelsea games will decide it

Edited by villa4europe
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2 minutes ago, Tom13 said:

And yet they're above us with a game in hand and superior goal difference.

The post implied that we're mentally not as strong as them and that they wouldn't throw away 2 points against a team like Brentford.  Which the facts don't support.  I think we're pretty equal - we'll look invincible one match, less so the next.  They are probably just about favourites for 4th at the moment but that could change next week or the week after.

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3 minutes ago, allani said:

We've dropped 5 points having taken the lead in matches this season.  Spurs have dropped 20.  But yeah apart from that.....

Yeah that’s factoring in the entire season. If you isolate our recent form which is more important to what will happen over the next 8 games then it is a concern.

First 18 games (up to Man U collapse) we scored 38 and gave up 22

In the 14 since then we’ve scored 26 and given up 27.

Is that not something to worry about?

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If we were in Spurs position and they ours can pretty much guarantee people would be saying that they're favorites for fouth because we could only take one point from Fulham and West Ham so haven't gained enough of an advantage over them going into Newcastle, Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal, and Man City

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Spurs Fixtures:
Newcastle (A)    -  0 Points
Arsenal (H)     - 0 Points
Chelsea (A)  - 0 Points
Liverpool (A) - 0 Points
Man City (H)   - 0 Points
Burnley (H)    - 3 Points
Sheffield Utd (A)    - 3 points

Total = 6 Points

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Villa Fixtures:
Arsenal (A)   - Win
Bournemouth (H)    - Win
Chelsea (H)    - Draw
Brighton (A)    - Win
Liverpool (H)    - Win
Crystal Palace (A)   - Loss

Total = 13 Points


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4 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said:

Go on give it a guess for us

Maybe 10 points. 3 wins and a draw from Bournemouth, Chelsea, Brighton and Palace. Mainly because while I would put us favourites for each game, I don’t think we’ll win all of them.

We (likely) miss out on fourth on goal difference if that happens.

Unless Chelsea or Newcastle do better than I anticipate, which I guess there’s a reasonable chance, but I’m erring on the side that says Spurs will pick up 4 from those.

Edited by Mark Albrighton
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5 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said:

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Spurs Fixtures:

Newcastle (A)    
Arsenal (H)    
Chelsea (A)
Liverpool (A)
Man City (H)    
Burnley (H)    
Sheffield Utd (A)    

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Villa Fixtures:
Arsenal (A)    
Bournemouth (H)    
Chelsea (H)    
Brighton (A)    
Liverpool (H)    
Crystal Palace (A)    

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Who Picks up more points and grabs 4th?
 

The only game I'm confident of us winning of that lot is Bournemouth home. We havent won a game against a decent side since Arsenal in December. Our record against the top 8 since then is this

LLLLDL

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