WallisFrizz Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 7 minutes ago, Jas10 said: We’ve also signed another young Colombian so maybe they can strike a friendship and help each other out… We’ve what? When? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: We’ve what? When? Who? He trained or is training with us at least… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 22 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 22 (edited) I think if we get an offer north of £25-30m then he's gone. Though, not sure we would. Edited May 22 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 14 hours ago, StanBalaban said: absolutely criminal that no one else gave this a laugh emoji 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 I have very a very tenuous link to someone who works for Chelsea. The little snippets I've heard are: 1.Jhon Duran is a real target they like him a lot. He fits the profile of the type of player they want to bring to the club as he is young with a very high ceiling. 2. Last year they seriously put forward Ollie Watkins as a signing but no bid was made because he was considered to old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) 30 minutes ago, duke313 said: Pretty much this. Players of Duran's age grew up with Chelsea being one of the very best teams in the world for a long time, it's why the like of Caicedo went there instead of Liverpool. Yeah though didn't really work in the 90s and 00s for us though with players brought up on Villa winning the league and European championship. The only player I remember saying that was Patrik Burger. Edited May 22 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 He's not getting anymore minutes for Chelsea with Jackson and Nkunku there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 8 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Yeah though didn't really work in the 90s and 00s for us though with players brought up on Villa winning the league and European championship. The only player I remember saying that was Patrik Burger. Yeah, the team that did that in the 90s and 00 was Man Utd, not us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 22 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: He's not getting anymore minutes for Chelsea with Jackson and Nkunku there. I think he's got a bit of a boner for them as he grew up with them being good - same as Carney. If he wants to scratch that itch, then fine, as long as they stump up a serious bit of cash so we can make a good profit on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 minute ago, lexicon said: I think he's got a bit of a boner for them as he grew up with them being good - same as Carney. If he wants to scratch that itch, then fine, as long as they stump up a serious bit of cash so we can make a good profit on him. I've no real feeling on him leaving or staying. He could be a great player so if he stays, great. If he wants to go to Chelsea, then also great, we rinse them for every penny we can get. I've a feeling he might kick up a bit of a fuss next season, his reputation has grown so will be expecting more game time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 3 minutes ago, duke313 said: I've no real feeling on him leaving or staying. He could be a great player so if he stays, great. If he wants to go to Chelsea, then also great, we rinse them for every penny we can get. I've a feeling he might kick up a bit of a fuss next season, his reputation has grown so will be expecting more game time. As you got at here, his lack of patience is his biggest problem. He's clearly not ready yet, as we've seen when he's started games and not been particularly impactful - so he needs to put his trust 100% into his world-class manager and get his head down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 5 minutes ago, lexicon said: As you got at here, his lack of patience is his biggest problem. He's clearly not ready yet, as we've seen when he's started games and not been particularly impactful - so he needs to put his trust 100% into his world-class manager and get his head down. I think when John McGinn said he's a nightmare....he was referring to him not Listening to UE and doing his own thing. He scores some great goals, technically gifted striker of the ball, but you have t be a team player, too...... not sure he is. So many things we are not privvy to.....I just trust the manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 minute ago, TRO said: I think when John McGinn said he's a nightmare....he was referring to him not Listening to UE and doing his own thing. He scores some great goals, technically gifted striker of the ball, but you have t be a team player, too...... not sure he is. So many things we are not privvy to.....I just trust the manager. It's a lot easier to impact a game coming off the bench against tired opposition, which I think is possibly inflating JD's opinion of himself (if reports are to be believed). Like you, I trust Emery and whatever he thinks his best, I'll back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) Could be the real deal, but undoubtedly very high maintenance. Probably a very high ceiling (£70+) but can we keep him happy enough to sign a new contract before he reaches that, and can we realistically offer him enough meaningful development minutes given the single striker system and jeopardy of every game we play? I am really excited about just how good he could become and how much of a handful he is for opposition, so for £14m think he is someone we keep and develop. However, given the maintenance and risk that he forces a move on his terms if a decent offer transpires an early sale makes sense. I would hope we could realistically get £40-50m given the precedents in the league (Hojlund - 21y.o. £74m; Palmer - 22y.o. £42m; Gordon - 22y.o. £45m)? The latter two deals are probably regretted by the selling club.... Edited May 22 by thunderball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 3 minutes ago, thunderball said: Could be the real deal, but undoubtedly very high maintenance. Probably a very high ceiling (£70+) but can we keep him happy enough to sign a new contract before he reaches that, and can we realistically offer him enough meaningful development minutes given the single striker system and jeopardy of every game we play? I am really excited about just how good he could become and how much of a handful he is for opposition, so for £14m think he is someone we keep and develop. However, given the maintenance and risk that he forces a move on his terms if a decent offer transpires an early sale makes sense. I would hope we could realistically get £40-50m given the precedents in the league (Hojlund - 21y.o. £74m; Palmer - 22y.o. £42m; Gordon - 22y.o. £45m)? Only Unai will know, whether its worth, trying to develop him or let him go.....We don't really know the behind the scenes issues, he does. I trust the Boss, to do what's best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Jas10 said: We’ve also signed another young Colombian so maybe they can strike a friendship and help each other out… ....or it could be like when Fred West met Rose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, thunderball said: ....or it could be like when Fred West met Rose? do you mean a match made in Hell? Edited May 22 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, The Fun Factory said: Yeah though didn't really work in the 90s and 00s for us though with players brought up on Villa winning the league and European championship. The only player I remember saying that was Patrik Burger. Yeah we were lucky enough to be losing star players to the likes of Middlesbrough FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 5 minutes ago, TRO said: do you mean a match made in Hell? Or like Jonathan and Jennifer Hart: 'cause when they met, it was murder." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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