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January Transfer Window - 2023


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21 minutes ago, HKP90 said:

I agree entirely, but Dembele does look a different type of Striker than Ings to me. Drops deep, holds the ball, releases the wide forwards, none of which Ings could do very well. I think it's purely down to style, rather than overall ability. I liked Danny a lot, a really good poacher (to use FM parlance), but that is quite restrictive if you are looking to be a counter attacking or possession side. I can see why they would want a change, if it is indeed Dembele that we are after. 

Yep I have no doubt, my point was generally when I come on this forum and I see lists of names of players from obscure leagues and never heard of, which likely 95% will never move to a bigger league because in reality they aren’t good enough.

My point wasnt directly about Dembele, I couldn’t tell you if he is good enough for us.  He could be superb for all I know.

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Just now, nick76 said:

Yep I have no doubt, my point was generally when I come on this forum and I see lists of names of players from obscure leagues and never heard of, which likely 95% will never move to a bigger league because in reality they aren’t good enough.

Fair.  Think you are right. I only think we've been targeting players based in Europe because a) Unai has experience and knows where value can be found, and b) most PL players are going nowhere in Jan, especially decent players. Decent strikers are like gold-dust. 

I would expect more domestic scouting in the summer as those bargains get taken up by clubs all over Europe.  

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1 minute ago, HKP90 said:

Deulofeu links have gone quiet. Hope that is a good sign, as that's how the club does business these days.

All going quiet, Guendouzi deal is silent.  There is definitely things going on, interesting to see what is happening.  Players out before in, secrecy discussions and then we get a signings, which speculation is true, Lyric reactivity and then deactivate, fans arguing over players…it’s going to be a fun couple of weeks.

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21 minutes ago, RicRic said:

I always thought it were Roma but many moons ago that now, moussa dembele scored 1 in 16 in his 1st season at lyon. The only moussa i want is Diaby 😂

Incredibly we swapped Baros for him!

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12 minutes ago, RicRic said:

If you are referring to Ziyech, then Everton have a whole squad of those type of messy deals but the players are not of his quality either, and one loan won’t hurt us… ooohh SSN just mentioned Dembele linked with us so may be official-ish

Everton won the transfer window 3 years in a row, people were discussing top 4 under Ancelotti. They look bad now with the benefit of hindsight. I just think it's all relative and I really don't think that window we brought in Samatta, Baston, Reina and Drinkwater is looked on as the window that kept us up. 

I wasn't referring specifically to Ziyech just to the idea of signing someone on loan to plug a gap for a few months. I don't care how good they are if they don't fit the system and they're not staying long term 

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Just now, skarroki said:

Everton won the transfer window 3 years in a row, people were discussing top 4 under Ancelotti. They look bad now with the benefit of hindsight. I just think it's all relative and I really don't think that window we brought in Samatta, Baston, Reina and Drinkwater is looked on as the window that kept us up. 

I wasn't referring specifically to Ziyech just to the idea of signing someone on loan to plug a gap for a few months. I don't care how good they are if they don't fit the system and they're not staying long term 

Amazing that Richarlison played for them for so long. 

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10 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

Unai never wanted Danjuma, but people are questioning him signing a proven goalscorer in Dembele. We shall see. 

I'm not sure he's that good of a goal scorer.  His record last season is looking like a bit of an anomaly.

Season Age Squad Comp MP Starts Min Gls Ast
2013-2014 17 Fulham Premier League 2 1 88 0 0
2014-2015 18 Fulham Championship 11 2 335 0 1
2015-2016 19 Fulham Championship 43 37 3354 15 6
2016-2017 20 Celtic Premiership 29 20 1918 17 5
2017-2018 21 Celtic Premiership 25 17 1442 9 7
2018-2019 22 Celtic Premiership 1 1 90 0 0
2018-2019 22 Lyon Ligue 1 33 21 2016 15 4
2019-2020 23 Lyon Ligue 1 27 24 2188 16 2
2020-2021 24 Atlético Madrid La Liga 5 0 100 0 0
2020-2021 24 Lyon Ligue 1 16 6 677 1 0
2021-2022 25 Lyon Ligue 1 30 25 2207 21 4
2022-2023 26 Lyon Ligue 1 14 6 604 2 0

 

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4 minutes ago, duke313 said:

I'm not sure he's that good of a goal scorer.  His record last season is looking like a bit of an anomaly.

Season Age Squad Comp MP Starts Min Gls Ast
2013-2014 17 Fulham Premier League 2 1 88 0 0
2014-2015 18 Fulham Championship 11 2 335 0 1
2015-2016 19 Fulham Championship 43 37 3354 15 6
2016-2017 20 Celtic Premiership 29 20 1918 17 5
2017-2018 21 Celtic Premiership 25 17 1442 9 7
2018-2019 22 Celtic Premiership 1 1 90 0 0
2018-2019 22 Lyon Ligue 1 33 21 2016 15 4
2019-2020 23 Lyon Ligue 1 27 24 2188 16 2
2020-2021 24 Atlético Madrid La Liga 5 0 100 0 0
2020-2021 24 Lyon Ligue 1 16 6 677 1 0
2021-2022 25 Lyon Ligue 1 30 25 2207 21 4
2022-2023 26 Lyon Ligue 1 14 6 604 2 0

 

Isn’t that goalscoring per minute quite good? Am I missing something outside his injury season and then this seasons anomaly?

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5 minutes ago, duke313 said:

I'm not sure he's that good of a goal scorer.  His record last season is looking like a bit of an anomaly.

Season Age Squad Comp MP Starts Min Gls Ast
2013-2014 17 Fulham Premier League 2 1 88 0 0
2014-2015 18 Fulham Championship 11 2 335 0 1
2015-2016 19 Fulham Championship 43 37 3354 15 6
2016-2017 20 Celtic Premiership 29 20 1918 17 5
2017-2018 21 Celtic Premiership 25 17 1442 9 7
2018-2019 22 Celtic Premiership 1 1 90 0 0
2018-2019 22 Lyon Ligue 1 33 21 2016 15 4
2019-2020 23 Lyon Ligue 1 27 24 2188 16 2
2020-2021 24 Atlético Madrid La Liga 5 0 100 0 0
2020-2021 24 Lyon Ligue 1 16 6 677 1 0
2021-2022 25 Lyon Ligue 1 30 25 2207 21 4
2022-2023 26 Lyon Ligue 1 14 6 604 2 0

 

Looks decent to me.  The 2 poor seasons look like the anomalies. 
 

I get the doubts with this lad but if Emery analyses everything as much as we hear he does he would only sign a player if feels can work with him.  So if it happens I reckon he’ll do alright.

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