Loan Thread 2022-23

[BOF]

2 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said:

Tbf, that’s not a high bar to clear. I just went through their under 21 squad, almost every single one of them is currently playing for some scandinavian team I’ve never heard of.

By far the 2 players playing at the highest level are Sinisalo and another keeper they have called lucas bergstrom who’s also been playing in league one with peterborough.

I know. I was just giving some positivity to the discussion.

[useless]

I was surprised that Lindley got a loan to a side in the football league, not because I didn't think he was good enough but because he's a DM that's a good passer of the ball and has good workrate, but as a player keeps it simple, the type that often goes underappreciated, as a DM he also plays in a position where not many teams will risk playing an inexperienced youngster as well.

I think Brad Young has been unlucky in that Ayr's main player has been Dipo Akinyemi, a centre-forward who has scored thirteen goals in seventeen appearances this season, top scorer in the division and also has five assists, so Young not getting into the team ahead of him, when he does play I think he's playing more out wide, to be fair he's scored two and assisted two in nine appearances in the Scottish Championship which isn't bad all things considered.

Burton was always going to a difficult loan for Sinisalo as their defence is very poor, I remember looking on their fans' form at the start of the season and they were saying with their defence it didn't really matter how good he was or words to that effect, made me think we purposely sent him to a club where we thought he would get lots of practice, although hasn't quite worked out like that as hasn't been a regular for them, I think the club rate him highly though, Cutler did an interview a year or so back and said he was one of the best young goalkeepers in Europe, will probably be our No.2 in the not too distant future.

I imagine there will be a few recalled in January, possibly including the three above, and then sent out to different clubs to try and get them more game time, and also a good chance that a few that didn't get loans in the summer will go out in January instead, Revan and Raikhy two that come to mind.

 

 

[HanoiVillan]

Sinisalo seems like someone who we should maybe be loaning to the continent. Other clubs don't seem to have a problem with loaning outside the UK, but if we exclude players we've decided we don't want any more we never seem to do it. Maybe the Finnish league is cack, but is it much worse than League 2? Maybe a top Finnish team would be interested in having the country's possible future #1 as a goalie and he could get a season or two of first team football there, rather than hoping a manager sticks their neck on the line for him in the English pyramid. 

[Zatman]

16 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said:

Tbf, that’s not a high bar to clear. I just went through their under 21 squad, almost every single one of them is currently playing for some scandinavian team I’ve never heard of.

By far the 2 players playing at the highest level are Sinisalo and another keeper they have called lucas bergstrom who’s also been playing in league one with peterborough.

They have a guy who plays at Hamburg and another at Nordsjaelland too who have broken into the senior side

[Hornso]

Summary from Thursday night - Who cares about the world cup part VI?

Wesley (Levante UD) 5th/22 [Segunda Division]
Home to SD Ponferradina (0-0) - Substituted in the 65th minute. 20 touches, 100% pass accuracy, 2 shots off target, 1 big chance missed, 2 key passes, 1 big chance created. SofaScore.com rating of 6.6.

[Hornso]

Summary from the weekend - Who cares about the world cup part VII?

Finn Azaz (Plymouth Argyle) 2nd/24 [League One]
Away at Cambridge (0-0) - Not in the squad (ankle injury).

Louie Barry (Milton Keynes Dons) 23rd/24 [League One]
Home to Fleetwood (1-2) - Substituted in the 76th minute. 27 touches, 83.3% pass accuracy, 3 shots, 1 shot on target, 1 key pass. WhoScored.com rating of 6.59.

Keinan Davis (Watford) 5th/24 [Championship]
Home to Hull (0-0) - Played 90 minutes. 25 touches, 83.3% pass accuracy, 1 shot, 1 key pass. WhoScored.com rating of 6.21.

Kortney Hause (Watford) 5th/24 [Championship]
Home to Hull (0-0) - Not in the squad.

Tim Iroegbunam (QPR) 9th/24 [Championship]
Home to Burnley (0-3) - Played 90 minutes. 40 touches, 83.9% pass accuracy. Booked. WhoScored.com rating of 5.74.

Kaine Kesler-Hayden (Huddersfield) 24th/24 [Championship]
Away at Sheffield United (1-0) - Substituted after 77 minutes. 46 touches, 50% pass accuracy, 1 shot. WhoScored.com rating of 6.32.

Hayden Lindley (Newport) 18th/24 [League Two]
Home to Doncaster (0-1) - Not in the squad.

Jaden Philogene-Bidace (Cardiff City) 19th/24 [Championship]
Away at Stoke (2-2) - Not in the squad.

Aaron Ramsey (Norwich City) 4th/24 [Championship]
Away at Swansea (0-1) - Not in the squad.

Viljami Sinisalo (Burton Albion) 22nd/24 [League One]
Home to Derby (1-1) - Not in the squad.

Notes:

• Plymouth continue to struggle without Azaz.
• Couldn't find anything about Hause's absence or Sinisalo's. 
• Rare Kesler-Hayden start!
• Philogene-Bidace has a hernia (as per his VT thread...)
• Aaron Ramsey missed with a knee issue.

Edited December 12, 2022 by Hornso

[useless]

On 28/11/2022 at 15:28, useless said:

A lot of clubs who we sent players to have changed their manager since, Newport, Crawley, Burton, Huddersfield, Cardiff, Watford, and now looking like QPR as well, that's eight players now playing under a different manager than the one they signed for.

MK Dons have sacked Liam Manning now, so eight of the clubs we've sent players to on loan at the start of the season have sacked their manager before Christmas.

[Hornso]

Summary from Monday Night - Who cares about the world cup part VIII?

Wesley (Levante UD) 3rd/22 [Segunda Division]
Away at Alaves (0-2) - Not in the squad.

[NoelVilla]

 

[Hornso]

Summary from the weekend - Who cares about the world cup part IV?

Finn Azaz (Plymouth Argyle) 1st/24 [League One]
Home to Morecambe (2-1) - Not in the squad (ankle injury).

Louie Barry (Milton Keynes Dons) 22nd/24 [League One]
Away at Portsmouth (0-2) - Came on in the 80th minute. 5 touches, 100% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.17.

Ben Chrisene (Kilmarnock) 11th/12 [Scottish Premiership]
Away at Hearts (3-1) - Came on at the start of the 2nd half. 29 touches, 72.7% pass accuracy, 1 shot. WhoScored.com rating of 6.51.

Keinan Davis (Watford) 4th/24 [Championship]
Away at Huddersfield (0-2) - Substituted in the 91st minute. 29 touches, 72.7% pass accuracy, 4 shots. WhoScored.com rating of 7.21.

Kortney Hause (Watford) 4th/24 [Championship]
Away at Huddersfield (0-2) - Not in the squad.

Tim Iroegbunam (QPR) 6th/24 [Championship]
Away at Preston (0-1) - Played 90 minutes. 52 touches, 70.4% pass accuracy, 5 shots, 2 shots on target, 3 key passes. Hit the goal frame. WhoScored.com rating of 7.55.

Kaine Kesler-Hayden (Huddersfield) 24th/24 [Championship]
Home to Watford (0-2) - Came on in the 72nd minute. 15 touches, 90% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.23.

Jaden Philogene-Bidace (Cardiff City) 20th/24 [Championship]
Home to Blackpool (1-1) - Came on in the 62nd minute. 14 touches, 42.9% pass accuracy, 1 shot. WhoScored.com rating of 5.85.

Aaron Ramsey (Norwich City) 5th/24 [Championship]
Home to Blackburn (0-2) - Not in the squad.

Viljami Sinisalo (Burton Albion) 23rd/24 [League One]
Away at Barnsley (2-0) - Unused substitute.

 

Wesley (Levante UD) 3rd/22 [Segunda Division]
Home to Eibar (0-0) - Came on in the 86th minute. 3 touches, 50% pass accuracy. Sofascore.com rating of 6.5.

Brad Young (Ayr United) 1st/10 [Scottish Championship]
Away at Partick Thistle (3-2) - Came on in the 64th minute.

[Hornso]

Summary from Tuesday night

Louie Barry (Milton Keynes Dons) [EFL Cup - Round of 16]
Home to Leicester (0-3) - Came on in the 73rd minute. 3 touches, 100% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.01.

Bertrand Traore (Istanbul Basaksehir) [Turkish Cup - 5th Round]
Home to Goztepe (3-1) - Not in the squad.

[Hornso]

Summary from Wednesday night

Wesley (Levante UD) [Copa Del Ray - 2nd Round]
Home to FC Andorra (2-1) - Substituted in the 72nd minute.

[Laughable Chimp]

On 21/12/2022 at 06:38, Hornso said:

Summary from Tuesday night

Louie Barry (Milton Keynes Dons) [EFL Cup - Round of 16]
Home to Leicester (0-3) - Came on in the 73rd minute. 3 touches, 100% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.01.

Bertrand Traore (Istanbul Basaksehir) [Turkish Cup - 5th Round]
Home to Goztepe (3-1) - Not in the squad.

Anyone happen to know why Traore wasn't in the squad?

[CVByrne]

1 hour ago, Laughable Chimp said:

Anyone happen to know why Traore wasn't in the squad?

Rested for a cup game maybe? Could have a slight illness who knows 

[Zatman]

Another player on loan at a club who sacked the manager

I imagine the club are considering a recall the Norwich fans dont seem to like him so can see a caretaker or new manager dropping him 

Edited December 27, 2022 by Zatman

[useless]

Ramsey has more goals and assists contributions for Norwich than any other player other than their two centre-forward's Pukki and Sargent. in October The Athletic did an article on him where it stated that he'd created more chances than any other Championship player in 'open play', I think he had the best assist ratio per ninety minutes at that point as well, he's since scored three goals for them since that article was published so it's not as if his form dropped since then.

They would be pretty foolish to not want to keep him, they genuinely haven't got anyone any better in the creative positions, it's not just about his goals and assists either, I've watched them and they seem to play better with him in the team, I've noticed the same with England U19s as well, it's not necessarily that he's doing anything spectacular, but he seems a very mature player for his age, keeps the ball moving and more often than not picks the right pass, and he's more than capable coming up with moments of skill at the right time as well.

[useless]

Apparently Ramsey needs surgery on a knee injury, so might be that we call him back because of that anyway.

[useless]

I think any of Zych, Marschall, Feeney, Smith, Revan, Raikhy, Tommi O'Reilly, Bogarde, and Frith could potentially go out on loan in January, would have said Swinkels as well but seems he's had a long term injury.

 

[Hornso]

Summary from the weekend - 

Finn Azaz (Plymouth Argyle) 1st/24 [League One]
Away at Cheltenham (0-1) - Not in the squad (ankle injury).

Louie Barry (Milton Keynes Dons) 21st/24 [League One]
Home to Forest Green (1-0) - Came on in the 86th minute. 9 touches, 83.3% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.01.

Ben Chrisene (Kilmarnock) 9th/12 [Scottish Premiership]
Home to Aberdeen (2-1) - Played 90 minutes. 49 touches, 56% pass accuracy, 2 key passes. WhoScored.com rating of 6.93.

Keinan Davis (Watford) 4th/24 [Championship]
Home to Millwall (0-2) - Played 90 minutes. 49 touches, 83.3% pass accuracy, 1 shot, 1 key pass. WhoScored.com rating of 6.39.

Kortney Hause (Watford) 4th/24 [Championship]
Home to Millwall (0-2) - Not in the squad.

Tim Iroegbunam (QPR) 7th/24 [Championship]
Away at Cardiff (0-0) - Substituted in the 79th minute. 57 touches, 85.7% pass accuracy. Booked. WhoScored.com rating of 6.83.

Kaine Kesler-Hayden (Huddersfield) 24th/24 [Championship]
Away at Preston (1-2) - Played 90 minutes. 57 touches, 69.7% pass accuracy, 2 shots on target. Scored. WhoScored.com rating of 7.63.

 

Hayden Lindley (Newport) 18th/24 [League 2]
Away at AFC Wimbledon (1-1) - Not in the squad.

Jaden Philogene-Bidace (Cardiff City) 20th/24 [Championship]
Home to QPR (0-0) - Substituted in the 66th minute. 22 touches, 71.4% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.25.

Aaron Ramsey (Norwich City) 5th/24 [Championship]
Away at Luton (2-1) - Not in the squad.

Viljami Sinisalo (Burton Albion) 23rd/24 [League One]
Home to Lincoln (3-0) - Unused substitute.

 

Bertrand Traore (Istanbul Basaksehir) 3rd/19 [Super Lig]
Away at Umraniyespor (1-3) - Came on in the 82nd minute. 2 touches, 100% pass accuracy, 1 shot. WhoScored.com rating of 6.11. *Missed pre-Christmas*
Home to Antalyaspor (2-0) - Came on in the 78th minute. 11 touches, 20% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.26.

Tyreik Wright (Bradford) 9th/24 [League Two]
Away at Carlisle (1-0) - Played 90 minutes. 42 touches, 79.2% pass accuracy. 1 shot, 1 key pass. Booked. WhoScored.com rating of 6.00.

Brad Young (Ayr United) 3rd/10 [Scottish Championship]
Home to Dundee FC (0-2) - Substituted in the 59th minute. Booked.

[useless]

Good to see Barry, Philogene, and Kesler-Hayden all starting today, Tyreik Wright also starts for Bradford.

Reports from local press in Newport that they've send all three of their loans back to their parent clubs, including Lindley.