Ratings & Reactions: Wolves v Villa

[TRO]

1 hour ago, KentVillan said:

I put McGinn MOTM by accident if anyone's wondering

Thought ref had poor game control, mostly got the in-play decisions right, but was weak on time wasting, faking injury and other nonsense

when you play like we do...The ref is an easy cop out.....even if they are crap.

[Davkaus]

1 minute ago, TRO said:

when you play like we do...The ref is an easy cop out.....even if they are crap.

Agreed. Never seem to get shit refs when we win. A lot of them are quite poor, but the vast, vast majority of the time, we lose games because we deserve to.

[VillaChris]

48 minutes ago, Nigel said:

We had more possession, more shots and more shots on target and their 2 goals were ridiculously lucky.

If Watkins could finish we come away with at least a point.

Explain how 'they were better than us all day long' then?

Wolves could've easily had 4-5 today themselves, Silva missed a one v one straight after the first goal. Dendoncker skied over from a very good break and second half Moutinho had a good break that ended up just wide of the post and Emi also tipped one over late.

They played through us pretty comfortable all afternoon and amateur hour from us the way they counter attacked from our own corners.

Yet another meek first half from us under Gerrard has meant we've lost another game to top 8 team I'm afraid.

[skell]

1 hour ago, rbcuk said:

Shit again, sick of seeing McGinn starting yet again, never known a player to give it away as much in a game as he did today

He is out of his depth on a possession team. Great when we have to win the ball back. Not a long term option for me

[VillaChris]

Just now, skell said:

He is out of his depth on a possession team. Great when we have to win the ball back. Not a long term option for me

McGinn will still have his good games and uses next season. However he's certainly morphing away from a has to play every minute of every single game that he's been in his near four years here.

He simply isn't that good especially if he's played deeper.

[il_serpente]

Both goals came against the run of play at the time.  Villa were looking in control in both instances, though there was a long period in between where we were headless chickens.

The problem with this team is that, while it can look very good at times moving the ball in to the opposition end and looking like they're going to create opportunities,  they rarely turn it into an actual chance.   All it takes is a silly mistake, of which we always seem to be good for a few, or a slip to leave us in a pickle.  Moments before the second goal I was thinking that Villa were back in the game and Wolves hadn't really threatened much outside the Keystone Kops period of 10 minutes or so starting at the first goal.  Then they go and leave Marcal totally free with nobody covering and I thought, "uh-oh."

[Richie k]

                                       martinez

     cash           konsa                      mings           digne

                         new player       luiz/sanson/ramsey

                                      coutinho

        bailey                                                  buendia

                                     new player

 

a ruthless finisher and solid dm needed. 

[TRO]

1 hour ago, Herman22 said:

Wolves are fast becoming the new Burnley. A horrible team full of really dirty players who get away with it due to weak refs. How they wasted 2mins in added time and nothing was added on tells you all you need to know. 

That is a weak and dangerous argument, that will have us back in the championship, if we don't address it.

We have to be first to the ball and lean in to them, like they do to us, but we don't, we are second to the ball and stand off and let the opposition play......we didn't against Southampton and it paid dividends.

as an example...Brentford had to change to being a more physically capable team, else they would have gone down this season......we are as soft as a bag of chips, pushed, shoved all over the place....its hard to watch at times.

How can we create anything, when we are so slow, we are bodychecked off the ball.....we can't keep looking for Refs to bail us out, we have to give it back, but when we do, we are so late, the decision goes against us.

That second goal.......would we have forced that error at the other end?....no.....because we wouldn't have been close enough, to force it.

[skell]

30 minutes ago, TRO said:

......again.

Well we will. A defensive midfielder, a good one, solves so many problems.   Clearly  watkins and McGinn are not top 6 quality. They need replacing too

[TRO]

1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said:

we had enough clear chances to win that game. we need to be more clinical. two flukey goals cost us in the end. 

our outfield play, cost us that game.

[Delphinho123]

4 minutes ago, Richie k said:

                                       martinez

     cash           konsa                      mings           digne

                         new player       luiz/sanson/ramsey

                                      coutinho

        bailey                                                  buendia

                                     new player

 

a ruthless finisher and solid dm needed. 

Would get walked through. Need two new midfielders in the Summer. Just like we did last summer but decided not to.

[TRO]

1 hour ago, mykeyb said:

So is it how we use the player then? That's down to manager.

He can't stay on the ball when challenged, with any consistency.....how is that down to the manager.

The positions in the team, that need addressing, the manager has no players, to play it, with any composure......hence why McGinn is deployed there.

[Richie k]

2 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said:

Would get walked through. Need two new midfielders in the Summer. Just like we did last summer but decided not to.

with the correct 2 behind the 3 it wouldnt. also having bailey there equates to less defensvie work being done so mabye another option there

[Delphinho123]

Just now, Richie k said:

with the correct 2 behind the 3 it wouldnt. also having bailey there equates to less defensvie work being done so mabye another option there

We need two defensive midfielders. 

[TRO]

1 hour ago, A'Villan said:

McGinn and Konsa losing their feet couldn't have happened at a less favourable time. McGinns touch enough to put him in behind the defenders, and then when he slips, he's on the wrong side of those defenders going on an attack of their own. Then Konsa our last line goes down too at equally poor timing.

It killed our momentum and control over the game. Would have been a very different 90 minutes I feel.

Wolves deserved winners, but my word that first goal was unlucky. 

Sanson was a positive. 

See you all for the next one.

slips usually happen when a team is pulling you apart.

There pressing, drained our composure and then we was there for the taking....2-0 job done......see the game out through game management.

No reverse scoreline, this time, because we haven't got the fight in us, to replicate it.

[est1874]

23 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

McGinn will still have his good games and uses next season. However he's certainly morphing away from a has to play every minute of every single game that he's been in his near four years here.

He simply isn't that good especially if he's played deeper.

Problem is, he still plays every minute of every single game, even now that we have other options. 

[TRO]

1 hour ago, Nigel said:

Wolves didn't deserve to win that game, they didn't even have to show up today we just handed the points to them. 

2 bits of luck and a well drilled defence meant this was over early on. Its really hard to come back from a goal down in this league which shows the need to cut out the mistakes.

No blame is given to Gerrard today for me, we played ok at times, but this team really needs work if we are to get anywhere. 

If Watkins was good enough we get away with at least a point today, unfortunately hard running won't be good enough for where we want to go.

Mings and konsa were both guilty of a lack of awareness in situations, which then led to mistakes.

Coutinho was invisible too, well marshalled maybe, but we need to find ways of creating when he's like this.

Buendia has to be an answer somehow. He added an extra dimension when he came on, he really is fun to watch at times. He was the best player we had today and he was only on 10 mins and barely touched the ball, that says a lot!

but that is a common theme of........."too easy to play against"

[TRO]

1 hour ago, romavillan said:

Sanson was good, would have put luiz on for mcginn myself.

Wolves are well drilled, they all know exactly what their role is in the different phases of play. In comparison we did no look very well coached at all. The frustrating thing, apart from the slips and mistakes gifting them 2 goals, is that we have looked great with the ball under Gerrard more than a few times in the same shape we played today. We started well, albeit briefly, then lost the plot for most of the first half. There was very little cohesion, the players looked like they didn't know where the runs would be going, where the easy passes would be, the off the ball movement was poor in possession.

Improved second half but it looks to me if we're going to play this formation we need 4 of the world's best fullbacks to play it. 4 so we have better cover than bringing on Young (who made up for the OG with a goal saving tackle, he wasn't bad but he isn't going to make this formation work for us). The 2 tens should mean that in possession we are comfortable, have loads of options and create lots of chances for Watkins. It really did not work today, Bailey struggled tactically with the role IMO, he was played out of position and suffered. 

All that said, they wasted a shitload of chances and in the end had Watkins scored one of the other two golden chances he had apart from the pen, or had Cash netted at the end then we'd have stolen a point. Wolves were the better team though and deserved to win. I'm not sure the squad is so bad, but it looks like Gerrard is going to spend a lot of money in the summer and it might be make or break for both him and us. For this season, we're on 36 points now, 3 or 4 more and we should be giving the kids as much time on the pitch as possible. I think we'd still finish 10th/11th anyway. 

the formation isn't the problem.....else we wouldn't be planning a huge overhaul in the summer.

some of the players are not as good as we think they are.

[TRO]

1 hour ago, Robtaylor200 said:

We didn't turn up on our big day 

we are pretty consistent at going AWOL

[TRO]

20 hours ago, VillaFaninLondon said:

Difference today was one team despite missing their 2 best players are well coached and can execute a game plan. The other is a collection of overhyped individuals who are poorly coached by a manager who cannot change tactics to suit each opponent.

 

Pride of the Midlands my arse. We're an expensive, overhyped team with no clue or direction and that's why we've lost so many games. I really do worry we're going down the Everton route because we spend so much money and bring in big name players but constantly underperform on the pitch.

 

When all you want is the season to end as soon as possible it sort of tells its own story. 

I have a fear of this too.....so many of their players looked more comfortable on the ball, because they had time and space-free of challenge,- to play in......conversely, we had a player up our arse, every time we received the ball, they, in short stopped us playing.....and we allowed them to play.

Its not big name players we need.....its effective players....who can compliment the talent we already have, and give them a platform to play.....They had 4 players in Coady, Boly, Kilman and Dendonker, who gave their tricky players a platform to play from.

We have been continually buying players, we have already got......We need to change the thinking, so the manager, can change a game properly.....How can you change a game, when you are bringing on another version of the player, you are taking off......That's a squad balance problem....and we have had it for some time, way before SG

Edited April 3, 2022 by TRO