Jas10 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, Aston_Villan4 said: I wonder what position the creativity will come from. This could be a bit of a mix up… I’ve seen and maybe heard that Gerrard wants more “killers” in the team… after the Bolton game too… can’t recall the exact words now… That would seem to suggest players that are clinical… not creativity as such, not in the literal sense.. Tbh, I don’t like this attitude of “if you’re unable to get the best out of the players at your disposal, just go and spend money on others…” It’s not the solution, proper coaching is… with a quality addition here and there (midfield)… I do think we need to get rid of a few if we are bringing new guys in, the squad and wage bill is getting really bloated… One of Ings or Watkins must go if we sign a quality CF imo… Ings doesn’t fit into a single striker system, is ageing and past his best and is on massive wages… his value is only going to depreciate… despite his reputation as a good finisher… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mantis said: He's 24 years old and 6'4? The one that I was thinking of was 4 ft 11 and would be about 1,627 years old now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jas10 said: This could be a bit of a mix up… I’ve seen and maybe heard that Gerrard wants more “killers” in the team… after the Bolton game too… can’t recall the exact words now… That would seem to suggest players that are clinical… not creativity as such, not in the literal sense.. Tbh, I don’t like this attitude of “if you’re unable to get the best out of the players at your disposal, just go and spend money on others…” It’s not the solution, proper coaching is… with a quality addition here and there (midfield)… I do think we need to get rid of a few if we are bringing new guys in, the squad and wage bill is getting really bloated… One of Ings or Watkins must go if we sign a quality CF imo… Ings doesn’t fit into a single striker system, is ageing and past his best and is on massive wages… his value is only going to depreciate… despite his reputation as a good finisher… Nobody is taking Ings from us with that contract. We just have to accept now that he’s with us for the next 3 years and that’s that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Creativity doesn't have to mean another No.10 type similar to Buendia or Coutinho, considering we tried to sign Sarr I think it's pretty obvious that we want a versatile attacker that can provide the team with some pace. I was expecting us to go for another attacker, but thought it would be more of a Chukwuemeka replacement, that is a youngster good enough to bepart of the squad and do a job when called upon but happy to sit on the benchrather than someone as established as Sarr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, Delphinho123 said: Nobody is taking Ings from us with that contract. We just have to accept now that he’s with us for the next 3 years and that’s that. I know you’re right… I just don’t like it. Probably the same issue with Digne. And even Coutinho if he doesn’t start performing and producing… The whole point of buying them (except for maybe Coutinho) was that these are players “at their peak” and ready to make instant impacts… players to be relied on… But they haven’t performed or produced enough, regardless of the reasons, and if that continues then they are just going to be heavy financial burdens for us… No one would complain if they were consistently in form and delivering the goods… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, Jas10 said: But you can’t expect us to sign anyone quality, Carlos will be back for may, maybe June. Bednarek is a great squad filler, chillllll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, useless said: Creativity doesn't have to mean another No.10 type similar to Buendia or Coutinho, considering we tried to sign Sarr I think it's pretty obvious that we want a versatile attacker that can provide the team with some pace. I was expecting us to go for another attacker, but thought it would be more of a Chukwuemeka replacement, that is a youngster good enough to bepart of the squad and do a job when called upon but happy to sit on the benchrather than someone as established as Sarr. So do you think we are going to play with wingers now? Or a front 3? Is Gerrard going to change the system now? Due to Critchleys influence? Is he going to hold the fullbacks back (bloody well hope so)? Just plain and direct questions… I haven’t seen the signs of doing that though but who knows? Leon’s stepdad has had a big outburst today… Edited August 27, 2022 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 No teams play with winger, wingers barely exist in the modern game, and we already play with a front three or a variaton on it. Gerrard has used Bailey as a wide forward when available, which is where Sarr would have been used, and he's also used Watkins as a wide forward, this idea that he doesn't use wingers or wide forwards is a myth, Ryan Kent is probably the closest thing you will get to a winger in the modern game, and he started every game for Rangers when available. And of course Gerrard will change the system if he thinks we have better players to suit, probably hasn't played with wingers/wide forwards with us much as doesn't rate Traore, El Ghazi or Trezeguet. If we have players that can do a better job in those positions I'm sure he would use them, as he's shown so far this season with Leon 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 3 hours ago, The_Steve said: Scenes when we fed journos false info to sign a CB we haven’t been linked with Martin Skrtel welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, useless said: No teams play with winger, wingers barely exist in the modern game, and we already play with a front three or a variaton on it. Gerrard has used Bailey as a wide forward when available, which is where Sarr would have been used, and he's also used Watkins as a wide forward, this idea that he doesn't use wingers or wide forwards is a myth, Ryan Kent is probably the closest thing you will get to a winger in the modern game, and he started every game for Rangers when available. And of course Gerrard will change the system if he thinks we have better players to suit, probably hasn't played with wingers/wide forwards with us much as doesn't rate Traore, El Ghazi or Trezeguet. If we have players that can do a better job in those positions I'm sure he would use them, as he's shown so far this season with Leon I suggest you take a look at this crap. It’s stupid but it also doesn’t back up what you’re saying… Edited August 27, 2022 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 The only transfer we need to make before the window shuts, is a managerial one. I reckon a League 1 manager could get this squad playing better than Gerrard and the saddest thing is, I actually believe that because he is useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Also I'm pretty sure that club coming very close to signing Sarr is better evidence that that's the type of player we want, than people's guess work on here on what Gerrard might and might not do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, UpTheVilla26 said: The only transfer we need to make before the window shuts, is a managerial one. I reckon a League 1 manager could get this squad playing better than Gerrard and the saddest thing is, I actually believe that because he is useless. Well, we’re all hoping that the ex Blackpool manager that we’ve recently appointed as “assistant” (yeah right) can get us playing… SG is just a face or spokesperson, getting paid millions for nothing… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, useless said: No teams play with winger, wingers barely exist in the modern game, and we already play with a front three or a variaton on it. Gerrard has used Bailey as a wide forward when available, which is where Sarr would have been used, and he's also used Watkins as a wide forward, this idea that he doesn't use wingers or wide forwards is a myth, Ryan Kent is probably the closest thing you will get to a winger in the modern game, and he started every game for Rangers when available. And of course Gerrard will change the system if he thinks we have better players to suit, probably hasn't played with wingers/wide forwards with us much as doesn't rate Traore, El Ghazi or Trezeguet. If we have players that can do a better job in those positions I'm sure he would use them, as he's shown so far this season with Leon I mean this is just so wrong. Wingers have developed over the years but teams still play with attacking width. Our players spend way too much time central. Someone like Bailey needs to have starting position on the touchline, where he has space to run at players. When he plays as a wide forward this doesn't happen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, useless said: And of course Gerrard will change the system if he thinks we have better players to suit, probably hasn't played with wingers/wide forwards with us much as doesn't rate Traore, El Ghazi or Trezeguet. If we have players that can do a better job in those positions I'm sure he would use them, as he's shown so far this season with Leon I wish I thought this highly of him, I’ve seen nothing to give me confidence what he’s trying to do is the result of players available. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, useless said: Also I'm pretty sure that club coming very close to signing Sarr is better evidence that that's the type of player we want, than people's guess work on here on what Gerrard might and might not do. Is it guess work or is it 32 games in charge? The Sarr transfer stank of desperation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Not sure it's that deep to be fair . If they were tiny but we're knocking it around bigger players , occasionally getting bullied but winning, it wouldn't be as much of a thing However since I can remember, any physically imposing team we come up against, we tend to implode. Fact is, a team of larger players, against a team of smaller players, with the exact same skill level, would see the bigger team win, as with any sport. Size and athleticism is now a big part of the game, not a deeper part of an early childhood complex. Lol Even commentators on our games point this out at times. This is a really interesting point to me, I've trained in Martial arts most of my life and Bruce Lee once said: "Always assume that your opponent is going to be bigger, stronger and faster than you; so that you learn to rely on technique, timing and leverage rather than brute strength". It is after all finding that balance whether we are talking about football or martial arts. A team Iike Palace seem to have it all, a good blend of skill and power and you know what good luck to them... Villa have lacked the right blend for as far as I can remember, "lightweight" is often a term labelled towards Villa over the years. It still seems adequate as way to describe us unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, UpTheVilla26 said: I reckon a League 1 manager could get this squad playing better than Gerrard We already have one here... Just that he may or may not have a passport... lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: We already have one here... Just that he may or may not have a passport... lol Gerrard was in Australia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Villa have lacked the right blend for as far as I can remember, "lightweight" is often a term labelled towards Villa over the years. It still seems adequate as way to describe us unfortunately. This is how I always think of Villa. I’m used to it now. We are everybody’s fall guy when a team need a win…. West ham you are welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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