nick76 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Maybe this is the tactic, to put out links so shit they make you want the initial " shit " links to be true instead. I thought the same after I said I didn’t want Graham Potter, the rumours then started on Gerrard and look how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: That number was probably correct until he signed his new contract earlier this year. He’s likely on 10 times that now, or at least 50. You're absolutely right! Just checked. 70 k. I knew something was off! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jacob-ramsey-rewarded-with-70k-a-week-deal-by-aston-villa-nz6l9ksr7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, nick76 said: I thought the same after I said I didn’t want Graham Potter, the rumours then started on Gerrard and look how that turned out. Ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Ffs Easy joke, you set me up, I just needed to put it away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, VillaHatesMe said: Were those players linked with City, Chelsea, Liverpool, etc when they were signed? This very thread is talking about Liverpool being interested in Ramsey. We just sold Carney to Chelsea for £20 million despite him not having accomplished a damn thing. This entire thread has devolved into nothing but people complaining we either aren't buying enough or selling enough. It's maddening. Maybe I didn't get my pint across well, went for early pints and home with a Chinese. The point I was 'trying' to make was that there are lots of players out there that are exciting young players and we can (and do) sign them, we don't have to pay 20m+ for them. Every transfer window we sign a few really good prospects and that is why we have such a good group coming through. If Liverpool want to buy JJ, then fine, we should sell him and use the money to improve our first team. He would have to be 40m/50m+. If we sell JJ, we can buy a really good replacement CB and a CAM. Brilliant business for Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post est1874 Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: Do you understand that there is risk and uncertainty in becoming a successful professional footballer. He is 18 years old and there are many things that could happen to end his career as a footballer. He has got a transfer to a club that will make him financially secure for life. Also, he is joining a team that has a proven track record of either bringing the best young players into their first team or getting them big money transfers to big club. He must be a real moron Pull the other one. He'd have been financially secure for life playing for Villa. When I was his age I was barely clearing £20,000 a year. He would have been earning twice that a week. Take your sympathies for young ballers elsewhere, you'll get none from me. Life is tough for the lads playing non-league and trying to hold down a job, all to try to afford a mortgage etc. Not for Carney **** Chukwuemeka. Edited August 19, 2022 by est1874 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Steero113 said: personally I don't, tbh the few people that have said it to me don’t think highly of players in the Bundesliga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, est1874 said: Pull the other one. He'd have been financially secure for life playing for Villa. When I was his age I was barely clearing £20,000 a year. He would have been earning twice that a week. Take your sympathies for young ballers elsewhere, you'll get none for me. Life is tough for the lads playing non-league and trying to hold down a job, all to try to afford a mortgage etc. Not for Carney **** Chukwuemeka. Its not sympathies for young player, it simply understanding the decision making as opposed to thinking they are morons. As you say, life is tough for non-league players and Chuk has the intelligence to see this and he has decided to cash in on his potential and secure himself financially for life. A very sensible thing to do and very far from being a moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Peter Griffin said: Its not sympathies for young player, it simply understanding the decision making as opposed to thinking they are morons. As you say, life is tough for non-league players and Chuk has the intelligence to see this and he has decided to cash in on his potential and secure himself financially for life. A very sensible thing to do and very far from being a moron Let's say he was offered 40k p/w at Villa. I'm sure he's on quite a bit more at Chelsea but let's just say that. At Villa that's over 2m a year, let's say the contract is for 4 years, that's 8m, after tax it's roughly half. Worst case scenario he doesn't make it at the top level and drops down a level or two, maybe he only makes another 2 million NET for the rest of his career, that's still 6 **** million pounds. How much does his church, oops I mean him and his parents, need to live off for the rest of their lives? And you act as if these guys, when they retire at 35 or whatever, can't just go and get normal **** jobs like the rest of the world. Even if they're not highly educated or skilled outside of football, they can still slum it for minimum wage like me and all my mates had to for years, I can guarantee you we didn't have 6 mill in the bank when we did, and we don't now and never ever will either. I've no intention of aligning with this reasoning for him jumping ship to **** Chelsea, it absolutely stinks and can't be explained by him taking reasonable steps to be financially secure, he already was. It's called greed mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 46 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: Alverez: because he was going to a bigger team than Villa Cucurella: We have Digne and we don't have 62m to recruit a backup LB Bednarek: We haven't bought him, I appreciate there is media saying we are interested but if we believe everything we read we would have a squad size of about 120 players Not picking up the best talent: Have u heard we signed Kamara on a free? I said Cucurella last summer not this summer. We should of been in for him instead of the 30 year old Digne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 39 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: Bissosuma, Cucurella, Richarlison, Sarr, Zaha, Eze etc why arent we signing these players before they go to brighton, palace, watford, qpr etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, est1874 said: Let's say he was offered 40k p/w at Villa. I'm sure he's on quite a bit more at Chelsea but let's just say that. At Villa that's over 2m a year, let's say the contract is for 4 years, that's 8m, after tax it's roughly half. Worst case scenario he doesn't make it at the top level and drops down a level or two, maybe he only makes another 2 million NET for the rest of his career, that's still 6 **** million pounds. How much does his church, oops I mean him and his parents, need to live off for the rest of their lives? And you act as if these guys, when they retire at 35 or whatever, can't just go and get normal **** jobs like the rest of the world. Even if they're not highly educated or skilled outside of football, they can still slum it for minimum wage like me and all my mates had to for years, I can guarantee you we didn't have 6 mill in the bank when we did, and we don't now and never ever will either. I've no intention of aligning with this reasoning for him jumping ship to **** Chelsea, it absolutely stinks and can't be explained by him taking reasonable steps to be financially secure, he already was. It's called greed mate. Do you apply the same reasoning to Tim Iroegbunam, Ross Wilson, Ewan Simpson, Louie Barry et al? Players make the decision they believe is best for them for their career. Chuk has signed a 6 year contract at Chelsea. He is made for life. He is not a moron as you said, he is doing the right thing for himself and his family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, messi11 said: why arent we signing these players before they go to brighton, palace, watford, qpr etc Because smith didn’t want them? Haven’t we signed players that’ll be coveted by other clubs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, messi11 said: why arent we signing these players before they go to brighton, palace, watford, qpr etc You appear to have breezed over the mention of Kamara. Not all unknown players will turn to gold. Brighton have had many failures too. We could just as easily say why haven't Brighton signed Tim Iroegbunam, John McGinn, Emi Martinez, Bouba Kamara and Matty Cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Peter Griffin said: Do you apply the same reasoning to Tim Iroegbunam, Ross Wilson, Ewan Simpson, Louie Barry et al? Players make the decision they believe is best for them for their career. Chuk has signed a 6 year contract at Chelsea. He is made for life. He is not a moron as you said, he is doing the right thing for himself and his family Yes but we’re not talking about the difference between staying at Villa on minimum wage and struggling to pay his rent or going to Chelsea for incredible riches. The choice in financial terms was stay at Villa for huge wages or go to Chelsea for even more unimaginable money, for a 19 year old or anyone else for that matter. The argument, “It’s a short career”, went out of the window years ago. Back before Sky invented football, a footballer might earn two or maybe three times the amount the average guy earned a week. Now they earn more in a week than a doctor earns in a year. The world really has gone mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 The same Liverpool 'ITK' who said Liverpool enquired about JJ had also claimed that Carney had signed for Dortmund 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaslash Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Peter Griffin said: Maybe I didn't get my pint across well, went for early pints and home with a Chinese. I would say you got your pint across just fine… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) Looks like Inter are signing Acerbi, and not Chalobah, which could open him up to come to us? Edited August 19, 2022 by Rich192 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, Rich192 said: Looks like Inter are signing Acerbi, and not Chalobah, which could open him up to come to us? Inter have been linked to about 30 different centre backs in this window, Acerbi might be one of the only ones that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 2 hours ago, The_Steve said: The same Liverpool 'ITK' who said Liverpool enquired about JJ had also claimed that Carney had signed for Dortmund 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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