bobzy Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: The headline literally mentions Chelsea’s takeover of Strasbourg Come on, don't be daft. It's all because the media hate us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 We have reduced the shareholding from 46% of ownership of club vitoria to 29%. This will allow both clubs to play in the Conference league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkymonkey666 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Has the owner of Brighton had to reduce his stake in Union S.C.? They're both playing in the EL this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Seriously, uefa can go **** themelves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Seriously, uefa can go **** themelves Be interesting to know what rules we breached but Chelsea/Strasbourg haven’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Seriously, uefa can go **** themelves This isn't new. UEFA imposed measures and we implemented them to comply. On a side note, it probably explains why we haven't signed Bamba from Vitoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) RB Liepzig continues to sign players from Salzburg though and UEFA don’t do didly squat. There’s been 20 transfers between these two clubs. Edited July 7, 2023 by The_Steve 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 I doubt there's anything stopping us from signing their players, we just can't play in the same competition as them if we both have the same owners, I don't think that's anything new, hasn't affected the likes of Man City because they haven't been in the same competition as the other clubs they own. Back on Bamba just because we have a stake in Vitoria doesn't mean we can their players join us, no more than we can make our own players stay with us if they don't want to, it gives us an advantage but nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, useless said: I doubt there's anything stopping us from signing their players, we just can't play in the same competition as them if we both have the same owners, I don't think that's anything new, hasn't affected the likes of Man City because they haven't been in the same competition as the other clubs they own. Back on Bamba just because we have a stake in Vitoria doesn't mean we can their players join us, no more than we can make our own players stay with us if they don't want to, it gives us an advantage but nothing more. UEFA won’t allow us to transfer players to or sign players from Vitoria until Sep 2024. It’s a disgusting rule and it’s trying to stop us and Brighton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 It is fair enough what they are doing to protect the integrity of the competition but needs to be enforced with the red bull clubs along with any other group teams who are also in the same competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) UEFA are quick to act on this issue, but seemingly only to us and Brighton… they’ve still not adequately addressed Man City’s 100+ infractions which date back a decade though. Also, what about the red bull clubs!? This really boils my piss. Edited July 7, 2023 by alreadyexists 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: UEFA are quick to act on this issue, but seemingly only to us and Brighton… they’ve still not adequately addressed Man City’s 100+ infractions which date back a decade though. Also, what about the red bull clubs!? This really boils my piss. We're not owned by a government who they're in bed with about hosting sporting events with. There's no negative backlash for them if they harm us. Not the same if they take on government owned entities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: UEFA are quick to act on this issue, but seemingly only to us and Brighton… they’ve still not adequately addressed Man City’s 100+ infractions which date back a decade though. Also, what about the red bull clubs!? This really boils my piss. Having read the press release had we not reduced the stake we wouldn’t be able to compete. It’s one thing to uphold cup integrity but the hypocrisy is evident when it comes to Red Bull in the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Realistically, I'm in favour of multi club ownership being banned, regardless of the territory that club is in. Or maybe FIFA centrally banning transfers between any clubs owned by the same person. But given how the significance of this (maybe a few youth players get opportunities they wouldn't otherwise) pales in comparison to the law breaking activity than Man City did for decades, and Newcastle have already started with their inflated self-sponsorship deals... it just smacks of them trying to clamp down on the threats to the monopoly. How much are they being paid by the Qatar and Saudi governments to sweep their activity under the carpet. It's like their house is on fire and they're choosing to turn off a f##king light switch to stop it spreading. Pricks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2023 I'm not a fan of multi club ownership, but that horse has bolted. However... UEFA apparently felt Salzburg and Liepzig, who are literally and wholly owned by the same company, were fine to play in the same competition 5 years ago, and the fact that Salzburg is literally Liepzig's development team now in everything but name suggests UEFA might need to take a look at their own judgements before pointing the finger at us. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Not really been a plain sailing summer has it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) So we won’t be able to loan any new signings to Vitoria to help with work permit issues like Brighton did with Mitoma in Belgium. We are being punished for following what other clubs did - not that it’s not right per se but the horse bolted long ago. It’s demonstrably unfair. Edited July 7, 2023 by The_Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Chindie said: I'm not a fan of multi club ownership, but that horse has bolted. However... UEFA apparently felt Salzburg and Liepzig, who are literally and wholly owned by the same company, were fine to play in the same competition 5 years ago, and the fact that Salzburg is literally Liepzig's development team now in everything but name suggests UEFA might need to take a look at their own judgements before pointing the finger at us. They're owned by totally different organisations apparently. And since they made that judgement, they've transferred around 20 players between the two clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, MrBlack said: They're owned by totally different organisations apparently. And since they made that judgement, they've transferred around 20 players between the two clubs. Cool. Everyone and his dog knows they're owned by the same people, and you'd need to be dangerously stupid or laughably corrupt to think otherwise. But, if that's good enough, the wholly separate and totally unrelated business of Villa of Aston Ltd (other names are available) can go shove mysterious money down the throats of Vitoria then. I'm sure Company's House can oblige. While they're at it perhaps they can purchase a couple of pub league teams in Scotland and Wales to have some other completely and wholly separate development teams that happen to have Villa in the name for entirely legitimate reasons. ... Honestly this sport is so pointedly corrupt it's getting harder to not just give up on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, Chindie said: I'm not a fan of multi club ownership, but that horse has bolted. However... UEFA apparently felt Salzburg and Liepzig, who are literally and wholly owned by the same company, were fine to play in the same competition 5 years ago, and the fact that Salzburg is literally Liepzig's development team now in everything but name suggests UEFA might need to take a look at their own judgements before pointing the finger at us. They have different board members and were forced to change it from recollection. We didn't - we had the same guys on the board at different teams, so they had to step down. Also, the tweet says "clubs including Brighton and Aston Villa", so there are more impacted here. Personally think it's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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