Peter Griffin Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 46 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: We did need an attacking player - we'd been playing Watkins as a number ten. We bought right sided CB cover in Chambers and extended the contract of our left sided CB cover at the same time. We got a brilliant left back. We didn't get a CDM, but the midfield are doing pretty well at the moment, it's not a disaster for this season and we can go back in the summer and fix it. All good right? I get where u are coming from with this but Chambers got player of the season for Fulham while playing as CDM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: I get where u are coming from with this but Chambers got player of the season for Fulham while playing as CDM I'm not sure in what world Chambers plays as a six instead of a fit Luiz though and the idea of getting a 6 was to let Luiz go back to what he is best at. Window as a whole been excellent. Still hoping for a top class specialist defensive midfielder but it's not looking likely now and can wait for the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: I get where u are coming from with this but Chambers got player of the season for Fulham while playing as CDM The thought alone of VT malding for the next 6 months over signing Chambers to be our starting DM makes me want this to actually happen now. On another note, I don't think DM is as much of a need as everyone else here seems to think... This window is still a 10 out of 10 for me. COUTINHO & DIGNE!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 55 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: We did need an attacking player - we'd been playing Watkins as a number ten. We bought right sided CB cover in Chambers and extended the contract of our left sided CB cover at the same time. We got a brilliant left back. We didn't get a CDM, but the midfield are doing pretty well at the moment, it's not a disaster for this season and we can go back in the summer and fix it. All good right? The one position I've wanted sorted since April last year is CDM and we've not done a thing in that space in two windows despite multiple failed attempts. It's very frustrating. I don't feel confident we'll ever get the right player for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Pissflaps said: If Newcastle stay up it's quite clear what they will do. And if I'm a betting man I would suggest by the end of the summer transfer window there will be another team we can realistically not compete with and thus our chances of European football are even further away again. Why villa and Brighton are helping them for temporary short term gain seems insane. Spending £25m on Targett is hardly going to help them win the title. I can see Newcastle spending £600m and still only ending up with a mid-table team. They don't have a manager, they don't have a footballing board, they will finish at best 16th and they have no players with a huge pull factor. All they have to offer at the moment is money. It will be really difficult for them to attract top players - especially given the (unfair) restrictions of FFP and the sheer amount of money that is available for the big teams - Chelsea and Man City could offer wages that other clubs couldn't but now the big boys can match almost anything that Newcastle want to offer. They have every chance of spending £40-50m on not much better than average players whose main motivation is a big fat pay-day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 The fear of Toon is funny. Toon tried to sign Digne and failed as he came to Villa as an upgrade to Targett and Toon then go and pay us for our cast offs. Well done Lange 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, allani said: Spending £25m on Targett is hardly going to help them win the title. I can see Newcastle spending £600m and still only ending up with a mid-table team. They don't have a manager, they don't have a footballing board, they will finish at best 16th and they have no players with a huge pull factor. All they have to offer at the moment is money. It will be really difficult for them to attract top players - especially given the (unfair) restrictions of FFP and the sheer amount of money that is available for the big teams - Chelsea and Man City could offer wages that other clubs couldn't but now the big boys can match almost anything that Newcastle want to offer. They have every chance of spending £40-50m on not much better than average players whose main motivation is a big fat pay-day. I must have missed the part where Newcastle are paying us 25m for Targett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: I don't get this fear of Newcastle. Why do u think they can outspend us. NSWE have 13 Billion. There is a limit as to how much any players can cost Because they have significantly more than £13 billion. It is a matter of fact that they can outspend us. The Reuben brothers are worth more than that alone. Whether or not it's still possible to put together a title challenging team within a couple of seasons is another matter entirely. I don't think FFP is the big roadblock* so much as a lot more clubs are willing and financially able to not be bullied into selling their best players. *See Man City's shady crypto sponsor this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Peter Griffin said: The fear of Toon is funny. Toon tried to sign Digne and failed as he came to Villa as an upgrade to Targett and Toon then go and pay us for our cast offs. Well done Lange Because they are at risk of relegation. If they stay up, they will be a better option than us in the summer. That's not "fear", that's a reality. It's not like we can offer European football or any recent success. They will be most players preferred option. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, AshVilla said: Well if we wait till the summer he won't be coming here then so it shouldn't be a difficult decision? Or we can agree a deal now that doesn't happen until the summer? Brighton need time to sign his replacement so they keep him until June but basically a fee / contract is agreed that automatically comes into effect on Day 1 of the summer transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Sam-AVFC said: Because they have significantly more than £13 billion. It is a matter of fact that they can outspend us. The Reuben brothers are worth more than that alone. Whether or not it's still possible to put together a title challenging team within a couple of seasons is another matter entirely. I don't think FFP is the big roadblock* so much as a lot more clubs are willing and financially able to not be bullied into selling their best players. *See Man City's shady crypto sponsor this week What the difference between 5 Billion and 500 Billion from the perspective of buying players and paying wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cizzler said: Because they are at risk of relegation. If they stay up, they will be a better option than us in the summer. That's not "fear", that's a reality. It's not like we can offer European football or any recent success. They will be most players preferred option. What makes u think this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, allani said: Spending £25m on Targett is hardly going to help them win the title. I can see Newcastle spending £600m and still only ending up with a mid-table team. They don't have a manager, they don't have a footballing board, they will finish at best 16th and they have no players with a huge pull factor. All they have to offer at the moment is money. It will be really difficult for them to attract top players - especially given the (unfair) restrictions of FFP and the sheer amount of money that is available for the big teams - Chelsea and Man City could offer wages that other clubs couldn't but now the big boys can match almost anything that Newcastle want to offer. They have every chance of spending £40-50m on not much better than average players whose main motivation is a big fat pay-day. I can see Newcastle's spending going one of two ways: FFP is ignored and the Premier League rolls over and looks the other way with sanctions/points reductions out of fear of losing a legal battle against a bottomless pit of money. This opens the door to several other clubs blatantly breaking the rules again. FFP is ignored and the Premier League comes down hard on Newcastle with sanctions/points reductions and they slide down to the Championship. In no way do I see them automatically becoming a Champions League club quickly, just because they have a lot of money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Indigo said: So assuming Targett, Steer and Trez (according to Basaksehir's chairman anyway) all leave on loan, that would leave the squad looking like: Martinez, Olsen Cash, Mings, Konsa, Chambers, Hause, Digne, Young Luiz, Nakamba (injured for season), McGinn, Ramsey, Sanson, Chuk Buendia, Coutinho, Bailey (injured for who knows how long), Traore Watkins, Ings So 20 players when you minus Nakamba, obviously doesn't factor in any youngsters to make up the numbers. Does just seem a little bit light in certain areas of the pitch for so many players to be leaving without anyone then coming in. But Steer and Trez are unlikely to be troubling our match day squad for the rest of the season anyway. So the only really impact on a match day would be Targett and we have Young as back-up (which is certainly no worse a position than we were in before the window opened). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Hasn't Zakaria basically gone to Juventus already...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cizzler said: Because they are at risk of relegation. If they stay up, they will be a better option than us in the summer. That's not "fear", that's a reality. It's not like we can offer European football or any recent success. They will be most players preferred option. How will they be most preferred when they’re even further from European football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Aston_Villan4 said: How will they be most preferred when they’re even further from European football? Because they will be able to offer considerably more wages and higher transfer fees to the selling club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 When people say why would we strengthen Newcastle and give them a chance of stayin up, and other such reasons for not loanin them Targett, do they not think the club haven't thought about all this? We're obviously not as worried about them staying up as some fans, they're not suddenly going to turn into Bayern Munich if they survive, it's completey different situation to the Man City takeover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Aston_Villan4 said: How will they be most preferred when they’re even further from European football? Also: Their training ground/football facilities are Championship level Eddie Fookin' Howe is their manager You have to live/play in Newcastle... Money alone will attract mercenaries to Tyneside, but they're going to struggle to assemble a team of ambitious winners in a very short period of time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: What makes u think this? Because they will offer much more than we can for a player. If they stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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