tomav84 Posted May 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2021 seen very little of the championship last 2 seasons but watching these games, who are 4 of the league's best teams. it really is horrifying how we took 3 years to get out of this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Just now, tomav84 said: seen very little of the championship last 2 seasons but watching these games, who are 4 of the league's best teams. it really is horrifying how we took 3 years to get out of this league. we had to unshit ourselves and it was a slow process. but honestly think we were better in our last year than either of these teams were on this showing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Either of these will be finishing 20th comfortably if they make it up. Barnsley at least we wouldn't have seen for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 wow the crossbar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted May 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, osmark86 said: we had to unshit ourselves and it was a slow process. but honestly think we were better in our last year than either of these teams were on this showing. yeah looking at this i'm fairly confiden't we'd have come back up if we'd gone down last season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted May 17, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2021 Football is so much better to watch when the balls actually in play. It feels like there's so much more actual football in the championship, even if most of the passes are headers it's better than the insanity of the premier league. Teams can legitimately defend a 1-0 by kicking a ball out, complaining to the ref about said kicking of the ball out, then refusing to give the other team the ball to take the throw in until the ref says enough, doesn't book anybody then the whole process is repeated 40 seconds later. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted May 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2021 both ties nicely poised for the neutrals at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Play offs were far stronger the year we were in it....Leeds, enough said. West Brom had likes of Craig Dawson, Mason Holgate, Gayle, Jay Rodriguez in their starting line up and I think they'd have gone up automatically if they'd keep Harvey Barnes for full season. Derby were seen as the weakest of the four by a mile (and I certainly was happy we got them as final opponents compared to Leeds) and they still had Mason Mount, Harry Wilson and Tomori as starters! Compare that to this four and there's no comparison. Bournemouth probably got the strongest 11 but it stil dosen't look that amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rino8 said: Football is so much better to watch when the balls actually in play. It feels like there's so much more actual football in the championship, even if most of the passes are headers it's better than the insanity of the premier league. Teams can legitimately defend a 1-0 by kicking a ball out, complaining to the ref about said kicking of the ball out, then refusing to give the other team the ball to take the throw in until the ref says enough, doesn't book anybody then the whole process is repeated 40 seconds later. Not quite sure the point you're making Rino but that was one of my pet hates of the championship, the refs here were clueless about time wasting incidents so you'd routinely have matches without many goals or injuries/subs having 5-6 minutes added on as refs just lose control of games so easily. I remember playing Forest early on in our first season down here and they took the pee all game, players getting subbed taking nearly 2 minutes to walk off the pitch etc. God help the championship if VAR ever happens as then 10-12 minutes added on will be commonplace! Edited May 17, 2021 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted May 17, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Not quite sure the point you're making Rino but that was one of my pet hates of the championship, the refs here were clueless about time wasting incidents so you'd routinely have matches without many goals or injuries/subs having 5-6 minutes added on as refs just lose control of games so easily. I remember playing Forest early on in our first season down here and they took the pee all game, players getting subbed taking nearly 2 minutes to walk off the pitch etc. God help the championship if VAR ever happens as then 10-12 minutes added on will be commonplace! I dunno, I don't think time wasting is anywhere near as bad in the champ. While injury time might not be as generous the amount of shit that teams get away with now in the PL is mindblowing? Lost the ball? Roll about, get your entire team to stop playing and now it's a foul. Conceded a free kick? Protest innocence, stand infront of ball, refuse to get into a useful position until sufficient time has been wasted. It has been perfected in the PL, walking just on the right side of the line for time wasting without getting booked. When we lost to Wolves a few months ago from their goal to full time at 94 minutes the ball was in play for 12 minutes. They scored in the 64th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted May 18, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2021 13 hours ago, Rino8 said: I dunno, I don't think time wasting is anywhere near as bad in the champ. While injury time might not be as generous the amount of shit that teams get away with now in the PL is mindblowing? Lost the ball? Roll about, get your entire team to stop playing and now it's a foul. Conceded a free kick? Protest innocence, stand infront of ball, refuse to get into a useful position until sufficient time has been wasted. It has been perfected in the PL, walking just on the right side of the line for time wasting without getting booked. When we lost to Wolves a few months ago from their goal to full time at 94 minutes the ball was in play for 12 minutes. They scored in the 64th. I'm all for 30 minute halves with the time stopped when the ball is out of play. You'd be slightly increasing the average amount of action of a normal PL match (around 55 minutes off the top of my head) and instantly remove all of this shithousery. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Lovely goal by Cavani, sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, sne said: Lovely goal by Cavani, sadly. What a goal, fantastic player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) So did Fernandes touch it or not? If not then it should be offside right? SKY and the fantasy site has de Gea with the assist. Edited May 18, 2021 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted May 18, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2021 Offside if that's Watkins! Can you say the bug eyed cheat touched it for sure!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) No way did he touch that Edit - and its still a shit rule regardless Edited May 18, 2021 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Its Man U it has to be a goal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 They didn’t even think to check about whether or not Fernandes touched the ball. Neville questioned it straight away. This is why having an ex-pro alongside the ref in Stockley Park would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) If Fernandes didn't touch it then Cavani is at least a meter offside if not more. It's not even close. Be interesting to see how they explain giving de Gea the assist but not calling the offside. And yes I do have Fernandes as captain in my fantasy side edit Edit 2: They've give the assist to Fernandes now. Still very iffy if he touched the ball but at least they are covering their backs with the call now. Edited May 18, 2021 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Really hope Villareal slaps them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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