Zatman Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Havent been provden wrong you gave one example, he was subbed more than once due to a injury Just like you never answered my question why i asked you have many game he played this year? He was subbed nearly every game as a like for like sub with Trez or Anwar He never faked an injury 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 55 minutes ago, Zatman said: He was subbed nearly every game as a like for like sub with Trez or Anwar He never faked an injury We dont know what goes on behind the scenes. But my original point still stands he is too injury prone and hasnt impressed this year. Id cash in the summer if a good offer comes in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: We dont know what goes on behind the scenes. But my original point still stands he is too injury prone and hasnt impressed this year. Id cash in the summer if a good offer comes in He's not injury prone though, how much more evidence do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 What are people's views Gerrard's use (or lack of) of Traore? He's as good as frozen out at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tom13 said: What are people's views Gerrard's use (or lack of) of Traore? He's as good as frozen out at the moment. he's been almost permanently injured, when he has returned, he just keeps getting injured over and over. Not sure what you want someone to do with that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tom13 said: What are people's views Gerrard's use (or lack of) of Traore? He's as good as frozen out at the moment. I love watching the kid, he’s mad, it going from the ridiculous to the sublime. But at the end of the day there won’t be a queue of clubs looking to take him in the summer, and there is a good reason for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, av1 said: I love watching the kid, he’s mad, it going from the ridiculous to the sublime. But at the end of the day there won’t be a queue of clubs looking to take him in the summer, and there is a good reason for that Yeah...I love watching him that much that I'm sometimes a bit ignorant to his obvious faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, MaVilla said: he's been almost permanently injured, when he has returned, he just keeps getting injured over and over. Not sure what you want someone to do with that? He's been available plenty lately and not had a look in, ever since Gerrard visibly got pissed off with him messing up that header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Just now, Tom13 said: He's been available plenty lately and not had a look in, ever since Gerrard visibly got pissed off with him messing up that header. Suppose he just doesnt rate him then. Wouldnt be surprised to see him moved on this summer, with a number of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: What are people's views Gerrard's use (or lack of) of Traore? He's as good as frozen out at the moment. Just well down the pecking order. Guess if we start Ings on Sat he'll be second cab off the rank but in reality little chance he'll be here next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Traore is a luxury player that we can’t afford to carry in games at the moment when he’s having one of his off days. I would love to see him get more game time when we have improved the central midfield positions though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Tom13 said: What are people's views Gerrard's use (or lack of) of Traore? He's as good as frozen out at the moment. Was injured. First time he was half fit he was chucked straight in against Brentford. Didn't impress and then I think 1 sub appearance since where again he was poor. Then completely frozen out. He's had not a half chance to impress but then again that's Gerrards management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 He’s managed just 187 or so minutes all season. Get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 can see him going out on loan, think we'll struggle to find a buyer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I think the opposite - we'll easily find a buyer for him but likely to be in France or a similar level league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Tom13 said: What are people's views Gerrard's use (or lack of) of Traore? He's as good as frozen out at the moment. We don't play with any width sadly. He's the guy who has played up front throughout his career, but Bailey has had multiple nods ahead of him through the middle. As the 10 he's behind Coutinho and Buendia. He'll be leaving in the next two years for the sort of price we should have got him for and be OK for someone at that price. So around a £10m loss for us. A poor signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just now, Tomaszk said: We don't play with any width sadly. He's the guy who has played up front throughout his career, but Bailey has had multiple nods ahead of him through the middle. As the 10 he's behind Coutinho and Buendia. He'll be leaving in the next two years for the sort of price we should have got him for and be OK for someone at that price. So around a £10m loss for us. A poor signing. He's very effective when he plays as well. 7 goals and 7 assists in what was his first proper full PL season, good going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Tom13 said: What are people's views Gerrard's use (or lack of) of Traore? He's as good as frozen out at the moment. How do you get him mins when there is Ings / Buendia o n bench or Bailey / Buendia. He would have played if he was fit earlier in season. I think how productive he was last season will mean he will be saleable for around what we paid, around £14-18m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 34 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: We don't play with any width sadly. He's the guy who has played up front throughout his career, but Bailey has had multiple nods ahead of him through the middle. As the 10 he's behind Coutinho and Buendia. He'll be leaving in the next two years for the sort of price we should have got him for and be OK for someone at that price. So around a £10m loss for us. A poor signing. I can't see how we sell Bert for £7m!! just won't be happening. He showed what he can do in the League last season with 14 goal contributions which is a better per 90 stat than Watkins I think. We'd get near 4/5m for a season loan fee if Tuanzebe was to cost us £5m fee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Bailey had a good season 20/21 in the Bundeliga with 9 goals and 8 assists, while Traore in the Prem made 7 goals and 7 assists. Maybe the difference in quality between them isn't that big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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