WHY Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Wild claim. I don’t think it’s particularly wild to be honest. Nketiah has been about for a while now and only just really finding in his feet in the best Arsenal team for over a decade. Archer needs a full season somewhere to really judge him though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, spiezels said: Lol People used to laugh their heads off when we said Grealish was better than Alli. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 https://www.oneboro.co.uk/forum/topic/13365-boro-v-watford-2-0-akpom-forss/?do=findComment&comment=918423 Quote I just texted a friend of mine who is on the Villa coaching staff and just said Thanks mate. Just come back to say you ain’t seen nothing yet just wait until he is fully fit. How Danny Ings kept this lad out of the first team is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 28, 2023 Moderator Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tom13 said: People used to laugh their heads off when we said Grealish was better than Alli. Archer isn't anywhere near Grealish level though. I think there may be some getting carried away here - I think he's a decent player that will have a good career at the good end of the Championship and occasionally in a Premier league team fighting relegation - he reminds me a little bit of Dwight Gayle, and I think if he has a career to match, he'll have done well. I can't see him ever regularly starting here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Archer isn't anywhere near Grealish level though. I think there may be some getting carried away here - I think he's a decent player that will have a good career at the good end of the Championship and occasionally in a Premier league team fighting relegation - he reminds me a little bit of Dwight Gayle, and I think if he has a career to match, he'll have done well. I can't see him ever regularly starting here. Is Nketiah at a particularly high level yet though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 28, 2023 Moderator Share Posted January 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Is Nketiah at a particularly high level yet though? As an individual? In terms of the level he's playing at, there isn't a higher level, he's become the preferred front man for a side that could end up being in the top three Premier league sides of all time in terms of points scored and he looks likely to finish the season with a Premier league winners medal. Individually he's come on leaps and bounds physically this season having piled on some muscle over the summer with the aid of some sort of training/gym guru the club set him up with. He's by no means the strength of that Arsenal side, but I think right now he's playing at a different level to Archer and I don't personally think that Archer will play at that level in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupinthe5th Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Happy he played well! Maybe we can more than 10 million for him in the summer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, Lupinthe5th said: Happy he played well! Maybe we can more than 10 million for him in the summer Not happening yet. He’s been tied down to a long term deal. The club want to see how he develops. He’ll get another 12 months in the championship and then we’ll decide whether to sell or keep. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Archer isn't anywhere near Grealish level though. I think there may be some getting carried away here - I think he's a decent player that will have a good career at the good end of the Championship and occasionally in a Premier league team fighting relegation - he reminds me a little bit of Dwight Gayle, and I think if he has a career to match, he'll have done well. I can't see him ever regularly starting here. I know what you mean but he has 3 things that stand out for me. First of all being completely 2 footed. And secondly he plays with his head up. And finally his movement is brilliant. He can play anywhere across the front 3 . But he hasnt been trusted with a premier league start or even a decent amount of time on the pitch. So our management obviously see something lacking. I just can't see what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Davis is a league one striker and Archer is better than Nketiah. Wild ride today. Edited January 28, 2023 by rodders0223 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Davis is a league one striker and Archer is better than Nketiah. Wild ride today. Gotta love VT ent ya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 3 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Davis is a league one striker and Archer is better than Nketiah. Wild ride today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: As an individual? In terms of the level he's playing at, there isn't a higher level, he's become the preferred front man for a side that could end up being in the top three Premier league sides of all time in terms of points scored and he looks likely to finish the season with a Premier league winners medal. Individually he's come on leaps and bounds physically this season having piled on some muscle over the summer with the aid of some sort of training/gym guru the club set him up with. He's by no means the strength of that Arsenal side, but I think right now he's playing at a different level to Archer and I don't personally think that Archer will play at that level in his career. Yeah I meant as an individual. Fair enough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/12797742/middlesbrough-2-0-watford-championship-highlights The play to beat two defenders at 0:37 Delicious! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amed Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Can we recall him if we get an injury upfront? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Amed said: Can we recall him if we get an injury upfront? No. We can't register players outside of the transfer windows. He has to be registered for one club at a time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Sad we kept him for 6 months and gave him zero opportunities almost disgraceful. His stats are similar to Harry Kane's before he made his big breakthrough, I mean what could of been. I wonder what message the Duran signing sends out to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 20 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Not happening yet. He’s been tied down to a long term deal. The club want to see how he develops. He’ll get another 12 months in the championship and then we’ll decide whether to sell or keep. Well hopefully he has a good run for Boro and we can line him up for a loan to a lower PL side for next season or maybe a top tier abroad, there always seems to be English players joining the Bundesliga these days. I've said before but it's a shame / poor management that we didn't loan him out in the summer as we'd have a far better understanding of his current level after a full championship season under his belt, he probably still needs a full season somewhere for him to progress and for us to assess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, KAZZAM said: Sad we kept him for 6 months and gave him zero opportunities almost disgraceful. His stats are similar to Harry Kane's before he made his big breakthrough, I mean what could of been. I wonder what message the Duran signing sends out to him. To be fair you could say his loan history is better than kane before he made his breakthrough... Too early to write him off yet but its uphill from here But then 2 years ago it was uphill too and he came relatively out of nowhere, off the radar, so still got high hopes for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, david-avfc said: Well hopefully he has a good run for Boro and we can line him up for a loan to a lower PL side for next season or maybe a top tier abroad, there always seems to be English players joining the Bundesliga these days. I've said before but it's a shame / poor management that we didn't loan him out in the summer as we'd have a far better understanding of his current level after a full championship season under his belt, he probably still needs a full season somewhere for him to progress and for us to assess Poor management from Steven? Never... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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