tomav84 Posted January 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think the pilot they hired had some issues he may have even been unlicensed so not sure insurance would have accepted it Cardiff were the cheap party here and its shocking they were willing to save money on the flight for a potential asset. A Ryanair flight would have been better oh yes i remember now his license had expired and i think the plane hadn't passed some inspection so probably nullified the insurance a decent private plane is like 5k to hire. when you're spending 15m on a player it's certainly a bizarre thing to try and save money on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Unfortunately from a legal standpoint you have to remove the human element of it. Purely as an asset, it should be pretty clear in the documentation for the transfer when the fee becomes payable and when the “risk” for the asset passes. If it passed before the flight then it’s on Cardiff and their insurance. If it didn’t pass before the flight then it’s on Nantes and their insurance. It’s then another matter as to who booked or signed off on the flight as that’s a separate negligence claim. It isn’t really rocket science. If it isn’t clear in the documents then it’ll just come down to whatever the laws of presumably France say although you might then have a fight over who has jurisdiction over all of this. It’s just a legal battle like any other. The fact that two people died and how it “looks” is sadly pretty irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Wasn't the pilot's expired licence only valid for daylight flights anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, turnbull said: Wasn't the pilot's expired licence only valid for daylight flights anyway? Yes and I don't think k he was licensed to taxi people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Cardiff have brought Nantes to court today to sue for 120 million as thats how much they believe they lost Not really sure what grounds they have for this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Cardiff have brought Nantes to court today to sue for 120 million as thats how much they believe they lost Not really sure what grounds they have for this Think sala would have kept them up I suppose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 12 hours ago, Zatman said: Cardiff have brought Nantes to court today to sue for 120 million as thats how much they believe they lost Not really sure what grounds they have for this You're not going to believe this, but apparently 'a study' has declared that they had a 54 point something percent chance of staying up with Sala in the team, so they have rounded that up to 100 and then billed Nantes the entire cost of relegation as they see it. Absolute scumbag club, always have been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 6 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: You're not going to believe this, but apparently 'a study' has declared that they had a 54 point something percent chance of staying up with Sala in the team, so they have rounded that up to 100 and then billed Nantes the entire cost of relegation as they see it. Absolute scumbag club, always have been. I read something similar and no disrespect to Sala they built him up as a Van Nistelrooy type finisher I actually thought Nantes won the initial court case over the transfer fee so why am more confused why Cardiff suing back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: I read something similar and no disrespect to Sala they built him up as a Van Nistelrooy type finisher I actually thought Nantes won the initial court case over the transfer fee so why am more confused why Cardiff suing back Since a] the idea you could work out what chance a club had of relegation if a player was hypothetically available (to one decimal place, no less!) would utterly laughable if it wasn't such a bleak situation, and b] even if the number were somehow believable, it's almost exactly a 50/50 coin toss anyway, I can't really understand how they think this legal argument will persuade anybody at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dog Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 I'm completely and utterly against the court case, but there must be some Legal Eagle out there that thought this was worth the investment of time and money? I'm not sure how, or why, but to raise something like this, whether Cardiff get the answer they want or not, will only damage their reputation to a point of being 'ultimate scumbag' status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 23 hours ago, VillaJ100 said: Think sala would have kept them up I suppose All evidence to the contrary. Yes I am going to hell. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapleVilla Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 18 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: You're not going to believe this, but apparently 'a study' has declared that they had a 54 point something percent chance of staying up with Sala in the team, so they have rounded that up to 100 and then billed Nantes the entire cost of relegation as they see it. Absolute scumbag club, always have been. Insane. Feel like his name is being dragged through the mud with court cases flying around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 16 hours ago, MapleVilla said: Insane. Feel like his name is being dragged through the mud with court cases flying around. It must be horrible for his family. A constant reminder of the tragedy and all the clubs care about is money. Let it go Cardiff, you scumbags. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 23/04/2024 at 23:09, HanoiVillan said: You're not going to believe this, but apparently 'a study' has declared that they had a 54 point something percent chance of staying up with Sala in the team, so they have rounded that up to 100 and then billed Nantes the entire cost of relegation as they see it. Absolute scumbag club, always have been. Genuinely can't understand how that could ever stand up in a court of law. Sala could've scored 10 goals for them in the prem....but they could've all been consolation goals in 2-1 defeats. It's like us signing Samatta in Jan 2020. He scored twice I think and they were both goals in games we lost so really no difference if anything had happened to him like poor Sala. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 58 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Genuinely can't understand how that could ever stand up in a court of law. Sala could've scored 10 goals for them in the prem....but they could've all been consolation goals in 2-1 defeats. It's like us signing Samatta in Jan 2020. He scored twice I think and they were both goals in games we lost so really no difference if anything had happened to him like poor Sala. Quite. He also could have done his ACL in the first minute of his first match. It's a vexatious waste of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 46 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Quite. He also could have done his ACL in the first minute of his first match. It's a vexatious waste of time. Even through all this, not sure why suing Nantes and maybe not the aircraft company for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 23 minutes ago, Zatman said: Even through all this, not sure why suing Nantes and maybe not the aircraft company for example Did Nantes arrange the plane or Cardiff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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