TrentVilla Posted June 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, ml1dch said: How does that work? "Pollsters" isn't a single entity. There are lots of companies producing lots of different results. Are you saying that no poll, at any point has been within four points of a result? Considering pretty much every poll now and previously covers the full gamut of results short of a Plaid Cymru majority I'd say that it's statistically very unlikely that "pollsters haven't been within 4 points of a result since 1979". Sorry, half concentrating on posting and half on a sleep dodging child, poorly worded post. Here is the article, POLLSTERS often complain that they are not remembered when right, and thoroughly abused when wrong. But British polling firms ought to be exempt from sympathy. Since 1979 they have mismeasured the difference between the Conservatives and Labour, the all-important general-election statistic, by an average of 4 percentage points. In the most recent general election, held in 2015, the final polls missed the result by a shocking 6.6 points—provoking an existential crisis among pollsters and a thorough inquiry by the British Polling Council into their failings. In their next trial, less than a week away, they may once more underperform. http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/06/polls-polls-polls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 How pathetic is May, won't even share a stage with Corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, villa4europe said: my understanding is the polls dont work because they dont actually reflect the voting demographic, the biggest poll i think is yougovs online poll, the biggest voting demographic is the over 65s, at a guess how many of the over 65s do you think are doing an online poll? and the over 65s largely vote tory That's sort of their job, and their challenge. They don't just go out, pick two dozen people, ask them what they think, publish the results and head down the pub. They're trying to build models that incorporate all the things that means that the data they've collected might be wrong. The differences in the polls now (four point versus twelve point lead) is all to do how different models are interpreting the various data and deciding how much weight to give the things you mention. Should they assume that 10, 20, 30, 40 or 50 percent of the people who say they're going to vote Labour are actually going to bother? And that's one of a hundred different things they're building into their assessment and a reason why it's difficult to get right. Edited June 2, 2017 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Hate the way she just bluntly says No when she disagrees with a question or POV. Cameron far more tactful when dealing with questions. Looks like another leftie crowd in tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Just now, VillaChris said: Hate the way she just bluntly says No when she disagrees with a question or POV. Cameron far more tactful when dealing with questions. Looks like another leftie crowd in tonight. Lot's of people are clapping her. Seems like people are clapping at everything, it's pretty annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Claps are slowly waning..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2017 ON...... THE............ROPES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Meaningless soundbite after soundbite. I don't think I've disliked a British politician this much ever. Absolutely vile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Has she actually answered a question yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Deflects a question about Hammond's incompetence to 'Diane Abbott makes the country less safe' She's vile. I hate everything about her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: I don't think I've disliked a British politician this much ever. Absolutely vile. There is nothing likeable about her but she doesn't even get remotely within the same league as the witch that was Thatcher. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 What in the blue hell is she yapping about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Dimblebee skewering her there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 She's floundering badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2017 That is why I like David Dimbleby, the BBC definitely picked the right guy tonight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Pretty sure one bloke clapped then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 2, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2017 None of this makes an iota of difference. The Daily Mail readers will just think people are being horrid to her, and vote for her regardless. It's every bit as tribal as football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: That is why I like David Dimbleby, the BBC definitely picked the right guy tonight. Definitely. That thing on channel 4 was farcical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2017 Trotting out a stock answer on the NHS there which had no relation to the question. Pathetic and getting called for it. Someone should bring up MP pay rises now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2017 Ding, ding... there it is magic money tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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