Mandy Lifeboats Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Genie said: Makes you wonder why they bother with the drones. They never hit anything, cause any damage or kill anyone (yes I know, both sides are lying). 1. It forces Russia to deploy troops and air defences in Moscow which keeps them away from the front line 2. It’s showing the Russia people just how badly their special military operation has gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On the Russian side, it’s clear that months of people predicting they were short of missiles and drones was simply wishful thinking. Reports this morning that they are likely making their own drones now, not relying on a supply chain from Iran. In which case, the regular drone attacks have an immediate but crude psychological impact (of dubious and debatable benefit to Russia), but they also test just how many anti drone arms we are able to get to Ukraine. If they can send in 20 or 30 drones every night, 17, 18, 19 nights in May, can the west supply 20, 30, 40 intercepts every night? It’s a low cost test and the day Ukraine runs short on counter measures will look like a massive and dramatic ‘win’ for Russia. It’s why we need to make sure we are genuinely giving kit to Ukraine, not just talking about it and milking the photo ops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Read somewhere on Twitter that Russia were preparing full scale mobilisation. Were the drone attacks a false flag for this to take place? Can't see it going down well in Russia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Read somewhere on Twitter that Russia were preparing full scale mobilisation. And arming them with what? Sticks and flintlock pistols? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, sidcow said: And arming them with what? Sticks and flintlock pistols? No. Only one of the pair will have a stick and a flintock pistol. The other would arm themselves when his partner dies (with a stick and a flintlock pistol) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Putin's under the cosh symbolically, politically and on the battlefield. The current situation has potential for some drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Read somewhere on Twitter that Russia were preparing full scale mobilisation. Were the drone attacks a false flag for this to take place? I don't think they need another justification for mobilisation. There's been plenty. The Crimea Bridge being destroyed, the drone attack on the Kremlin, the UK supplying cruise missiles and the Dutch agreeing to provide F16 being obvious examples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: I don't think they need another justification for mobilisation. There's been plenty. The Crimea Bridge being destroyed, the drone attack on the Kremlin, the UK supplying cruise missiles and the Dutch agreeing to provide F16 being obvious examples. Plus the Belgorod Incursion only last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: I don't think they need another justification for mobilisation. There's been plenty. The Crimea Bridge being destroyed, the drone attack on the Kremlin, the UK supplying cruise missiles and the Dutch agreeing to provide F16 being obvious examples. Justification for who though? The Kremlin? Sure. Some guy in St Petersburg who’s tired of Putin and the way he’s enriching himself on Russia’s wealth? Not so sure. The justification for Putin was there from day one. It’s still not there for the majority of Russian society. Edited May 30, 2023 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, magnkarl said: Justification for who though? The Kremlin? Sure. Some guy in St Petersburg who’s tired of Putin and the way he’s enriching himself on Russia’s wealth? Not so sure. The justification for Putin was there from day one. It’s still not there for the majority of Russian society. I see your point. But these drone attacks did almost no damage in the big scheme of things. I simply don't believe it was a false flag operation to solidify the ruSSian people for Mobilisation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Telegram is full of accounts laughing at the fact that Ukrainian drones hit the elite districts of Russia yesterday, damaging the houses of the oligarchs and Putinists. Solovyev is saying that it's treason to laugh at Russians being bombed. Turns out most Russians don't relate to the people who stole the wealth of their country, and now FSB has to push many people out of windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted June 1, 2023 Administrator Share Posted June 1, 2023 57 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Telegram is full of accounts laughing at the fact that Ukrainian drones hit the elite districts of Russia yesterday, damaging the houses of the oligarchs and Putinists. Solovyev is saying that it's treason to laugh at Russians being bombed. Turns out most Russians don't relate to the people who stole the wealth of their country, and now FSB has to push many people out of windows. I feel that windows are getting a bad name. First Microsoft and now the FSB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, limpid said: I feel that windows are getting a bad name. First Microsoft and now the FSB. FSB has been obsolete for a while, to be fair. Seems par for the course with those crazy Ruzzians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2023 The important bit in this is Volnovakha the larger town 15km to the south of where this happened as that is a crucial supply line between DOnetsk and the Zaporizhia district for the Russians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AshVilla Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) Storm Shadow missiles doing some major work apparently. Hundreds of russian soldiers dying in their barracks well behind the front lines in Mariupol and Berdyansk. No wonder they need another mobilisation. Edited June 1, 2023 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Just now, AshVilla said: No wonder they need another mobilisation. What they need,is for someone to assinate Putin and put the country out of its misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: What they need,is for someone to assinate Putin and put the country out of its misery. He'll only most likely be replaced by Putin II 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Just now, bickster said: He'll only most likely be replaced by Putin II You have a god point there,considering the past leaders of Russia/USSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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