TRO Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Michael118 said: Probably because I rate self discipline as one of the most important traits in a player and it's probably Lansbury's weakest area. I could not agree with you more about self discipline, l value that highly in a player too. However, I find it hard to believe that Lansbury has achieved such good performances at Forest without it. any player will only carry a team for so long, that is not lack of discipline or lack of desire. its getting wise......all players need support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Michael118 said: Probably because I rate self discipline as one of the most important traits in a player and it's probably Lansbury's weakest area. Do you mean on the pitch*? Because don't you also rate Gabby very highly? *as in he picks up a lot of needless yellow cards. Edited January 26, 2017 by dont_do_it_doug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnock1984 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Johnstone Bree Chester Baker Amavi Jedi Lamsbury Houlihane Adomah Kodjia New st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Bjarnason can play left yes? If so Jedi should be shield in front of back 4 and I like Kodjia as lone striker so 4141 Bree Chester Baker Amavi Jedi Adomah Hourihane Lansbury Bjarnason Kodjia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Personally I think Jedi is a good option away from home against an attacking team. However, home matches he should be on the bench and only come on to protect our lead. I think hourihane and Lansbury can operate centrally without him, especially with the work rates of adomah and bjarnesson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Johnstone Bree Chester Baker Amavi Lansbury Hourihane Bjarnason Adomah Grealish Kodjia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 2 hours ago, KHV said: Johnstone Bree Chester Baker Amavi Lansbury Hourihane Bjarnason Adomah Grealish Kodjia Interesting to see how it pans out.....initially I think Lansbury could be wasted there......Jedinak for me. however, I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, TRO said: Interesting to see how it pans out.....initially I think Lansbury could be wasted there......Jedinak for me. however, I could be wrong. I hope we see as little of Jedinak as possible. I think he is terrible and a total waste of the best part of 60k per week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Johnstone Bree Chester Baker Amavi Lansbury Hourihane Adomah Grealish Bjarnason Kodjia We'll need another striker (unbelievably, considering we started the season with 3 of the most prolific Championship strikers of the past 3 years). Edited January 28, 2017 by HalfTimePost 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Just now, HalfTimePost said: Johnstone Bree Chester Baker Amavi Lansbury Hourihane Adomah Grealish Bjarnason Kodjia That would be my choice as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, KHV said: I hope we see as little of Jedinak as possible. I think he is terrible and a total waste of the best part of 60k per week. so who is going to defend?.......we need balance. I understand the new midfielders are can do both, but do we really want to bog down offensive midfielders with defensive duties. I think it depends on how we are set up....But despite Jedinaks shortfalls, he offers dedicated defensive duties.....I think he will be used more than you think. Steve Bruce has so many permutations now to choose from, which is ideal. Edited January 28, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, TRO said: so who is going to defend?.......we need balance. Bjarnoson, Hourihane and Lansbury all have pretty good engines and mobility. All three can get stuck in too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 3 hours ago, TRO said: Interesting to see how it pans out.....initially I think Lansbury could be wasted there......Jedinak for me. however, I could be wrong. My boss is a Forest fan and said the worst thing for Lansbury is to play him too deep as he was ineffective for them in that position. Lansbury and Hourihane start in the middle and if we're getting overrun in the middle, take off Adomah and put Jedinak in front of the back four. With the talent we now have in the midfield areas we shouldn't be starting with a DM and soaking up pressure, we should be the ones applying it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, KHV said: Bjarnoson, Hourihane and Lansbury all have pretty good engines and mobility. All three can get stuck in too 11 minutes ago, KHV said: Bjarnoson, Hourihane and Lansbury all have pretty good engines and mobility. All three can get stuck in too 11 minutes ago, KHV said: Bjarnoson, Hourihane and Lansbury all have pretty good engines and mobility. All three can get stuck in too 11 minutes ago, KHV said: Bjarnoson, Hourihane and Lansbury all have pretty good engines and mobility. All three can get stuck in too I understand your point and I am not arguing, just offering and alternative view. In my experience its difficult to do both.....If we have them bogged down with defending we lose their attacking capability. I need to see them play to be sure, but my instints tell me they have come to support the offensive players in scoring goals. Its just my suspicion that Jedinak will still be used. but like i said SB will have so many options now. Ps Crystal Palace would have him back.....now they have become a softer touch,since he left. Edited January 28, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ginko said: My boss is a Forest fan and said the worst thing for Lansbury is to play him too deep as he was ineffective for them in that position. Lansbury and Hourihane start in the middle and if we're getting overrun in the middle, take off Adomah and put Jedinak in front of the back four. With the talent we now have in the midfield areas we shouldn't be starting with a DM and soaking up pressure, we should be the ones applying it. That is exactly my suspicion.....and how I see it. Edited January 28, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, TRO said: I understand your point and I am not arguing, just offering and alternative view. In my experience its difficult to do both.....If we have them bogged down with defending we lose their attacking capability. I need to see them play to be sure, but my instints tell me they have come to support the offensive players in scoring goals. Its just my suspicion that Jedinak will still be used. You may be right, at present IMO Jedinak has been a massive flop. He looks a plae shadow of his former self, but I don't think he has ever been very good personally. I have never seen someone so uncomfortable with a football in the middle of the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, KHV said: You may be right, at present IMO Jedinak has been a massive flop. He looks a plae shadow of his former self, but I don't think he has ever been very good personally. I have never seen someone so uncomfortable with a football in the middle of the park I made a massive mistake saying something similar about Des Bremner in the early 80's......I regret it now and see what a novice fan I was. I was in my 30's and wrapped up with all the eye candy.....but you need someone to do the ugly stuff, BEFORE it gets to the defence. Ginko makes some good points, but I still think you need a DM......else someone else has to do it who is maybe not so specialised. Look, Jedinak has lost his legs, but he still nullifies the aerial threat and players running through the middle. IMV we would have won against Preston, if he was playing. Ps DM's are not renowned for their ball skills Edited January 28, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Jedi will have a part to play for sure, he is more than capable of doing the job he's best at. But, we don't have to play him every week. We have options now, we can play different formations and change the approach up. Jedi will be the defence protector when we need him to, the difference now is that he will have other midfielders to do the other stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 You can quote that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: You can quote that again. 5 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: You can quote that again. 5 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: You can quote that again. Agreed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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