TRO Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Dennis Mortimers comments on the demise of Aston Villa and all the negative points dovetails perfectly with my views too......fwiw ps and his view on who the new manager should be. Edited May 15, 2016 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted May 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2016 8 hours ago, TRO said: Dennis Mortimers comments on the demise of Aston Villa and all the negative points dovetails perfectly with my views too......fwiw ps and his view on who the new manager should be. Any chance of a link mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 14 hours ago, AVTuco said: Any chance of a link mate? Check out the Birmingham mail on the internet.....type Dennis Mortimer on villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 so people think we will finish beneath wigan burton albion rotherham barnsley/millwall bristol city huddesfield These are some of the teams in the league next season so your tell me between 21 other sides in that league will finish above us? This is why this thread is ridiculous at this stage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: so people think we will finish beneath wigan burton albion rotherham barnsley/millwall bristol city huddesfield These are some of the teams in the league next season so your tell me between 21 other sides in that league will finish above us? This is why this thread is ridiculous at this stage. im sure Wolves fans said the same thing when they went down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Zatman said: im sure Wolves fans said the same thing when they went down And I'm sure the dozen or so other relegated clubs who didn't go straight down again had fans saying what you just said. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 well the Wolves team that went down is very similar to us, a terrible caretaker manager, gutless collapse into relegation and a bunch of overpaid pricks who they actually couldnt move when they went down 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just now, Mantis said: And I'm sure the dozen or so other relegated clubs who didn't go straight down again had fans saying what you just said. I'm not sure I get the point you're trying to make. Is it possible? Yes. Hence the threads validity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KHV Posted May 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2016 9 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: so people think we will finish beneath wigan burton albion rotherham barnsley/millwall bristol city huddesfield These are some of the teams in the league next season so your tell me between 21 other sides in that league will finish above us? This is why this thread is ridiculous at this stage. We would struggle against all of those teams at present. People seem to be forgeting that this current side of ours is one of the worst in the entire history of top flight football in this country never mind the premier league era 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 The way this club is bieng run, its not beyond belief that we actually could end up in league 1 AND remember, it has happened before. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Relegation is more likely than Promotion at this stage IMO. With all respect dem when you come up with a list that says wigan burton albion rotherham barnsley/millwall bristol city huddesfield I'll give you a list for this season that says Watford Crystal Palace Bournemouth Sunderland Norwich Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Richard said: Relegation is more likely than Promotion at this stage IMO. With all respect dem when you come up with a list that says wigan burton albion rotherham barnsley/millwall bristol city huddesfield I'll give you a list for this season that says Watford Crystal Palace Bournemouth Sunderland Norwich Leicester See the thing with that Rich is Palace, Leicester and Sunderland all finished above us so isnt a great shock. The others yes we are expected to finish above. I thought Bournmouth would finish rock bottom shows what a great job Eddie Howe has done. All the above teams mentioned are tiny clubs, if we cant finish above them then god that is embarrassing. I think at worst next season we will finish mid table lower end. But I really would be shocked if we were near relegation zone, if we went down again for me it would be a huge shock as there really is a load of shit in that league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I'm not sure I get the point you're trying to make. Is it possible? Yes. Hence the threads validity. My point is that people always point to examples like Wolves or Wigan while ignoring the fact that there are far more clubs who went down but didn't go straight down again the next season. 1 hour ago, Zatman said: well the Wolves team that went down is very similar to us, a terrible caretaker manager, gutless collapse into relegation and a bunch of overpaid pricks who they actually couldnt move when they went down Different clubs, different circumstances. For what it's worth, even Derby who got even less points than us didn't go down again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 well the Wolves team that went down is very similar to us, a terrible caretaker manager, gutless collapse into relegation and a bunch of overpaid pricks who they actually couldnt move when they went down Lots of teams get relegated with a caretaker manager, a collapse into relegation and players that their fans would call overpaid pricks. It's only because we support Villa that we know to reel off these negatives about our own club. I'm sure many, many teams have had fans citing the exact same stuff as us, and yet only a small percentage of relegated teams continue to be relegated again the next year. Even though relegation is a possibility next season (as it is for any team in any league), I find this thread a bit premature, considering that we don't know who our manager will be, who our owner will be or what our first team, let alone our squad, will even look like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 really not that different circumstances, didnt win in last 13 under Connor, had clearings in the woods like Johnson and O'Hara who werent arsed and took the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 really not that different circumstances, didnt win in last 13 under Connor, had clearings in the woods like Johnson and O'Hara who werent arsed and took the money Change the names and I'm sure you could say that for many relegated teams in the last ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Rob182 said: Change the names and I'm sure you could say that for many relegated teams in the last ten years. in last 5 years only teams similar have been Wolves and QPR. Rest have all put in at least a bit of a fight and showed pride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Zatman said: in last 5 years only teams similar have been Wolves and QPR. Rest have all put in at least a bit of a fight and showed pride That's largely irrelevant though when it's likely that we'll have a lot of new players next season. Edited May 16, 2016 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mantis said: That's largely irrelevant though when it's likely that we'll have a lot of new players next season. how likely is it though? We have no manager and no investment and already miles behind clubs for next season in preparation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 As things stand today we are looking more likely to go down again, than going up. An owner that wants out, no permanent manager, a terrible caretaker manager, a hopeless squad, a board that has lost its most influential members, fans that have no faith in the club and so on. But I'm hopeful a takeover will happen soon and things will look brighter but if it doesn't we'll be favorites for the drop. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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