snowychap Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Apart from them, is anyone going to vote for it? I can't see Labour whipping for it. And it's hard to see a Johnson hard pivot that way. Although it would give him a way out... I know they can vote for more than one thing, doesn't this suggest more than just another option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) Quote Labour MP - and Brexit supporter - Kate Hoey says if the bill is passed it would "humiliate this Parliament". She also says it would be "sending a signal to all those people who voted to Leave that we know best, that we are being arrogant". She argues that her own party will face the consequences when there is a general election Is it wrong to assume they know best? I'd like to think they are the key fact holders. I'm sure they will know a lot more than most people that voted in the referendum. Edited September 3, 2019 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Bob Neil - in favour of government on the motion. A surprise, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, snowychap said: I know they can vote for more than one thing, doesn't this suggest more than just another option? If it's an amendment then it gets added to the legislation. So if the legislation passes then the amendment passes with it into law. So if either main party whips in favour of it than it suggests it would probably pass. Penny to see Theresa May's internal monologue if that ever happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Genie said: her own party She has no party. Many of us would say she never had one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 So if Boris says in no circumstances will he go to the EU for an extension and the vote tomorrow blocks No Deal ... let’s say he resigns .. what happens next ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 He couldn't resign could he? It would be utterly ridiculous if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: ... let’s say he resigns .. what happens next ? British Airways replaces it's fleet with a load of Gloucestershire Old Spots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: So if Boris says in no circumstances will he go to the EU for an extension and the vote tomorrow blocks No Deal ... let’s say he resigns .. what happens next ? It'd inevitably be a GE, surely? I can't imagine him resigning this soon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, ml1dch said: If it's an amendment then it gets added to the legislation. So if the legislation passes then the amendment passes with it into law. So if either main party whips in favour of it than it suggests it would probably pass. Penny to see Theresa May's internal monologue if that ever happened... I'm sorry but I don't see how you get to all that. I understand what an amendment is and what happens if it gets accepted. My point was that this lot laying down an amendment might indicate that they weren't going to vote for the actual motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: So if Boris says in no circumstances will he go to the EU for an extension and the vote tomorrow blocks No Deal ... let’s say he resigns .. what happens next ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, snowychap said: I'm sorry but I don't see how you get to all that. I understand what an amendment is and what happens if it gets accepted. My point was that this lot laying down an amendment might indicate that they weren't going to vote for the actual motion. Sorry, I'm with you now. Yes. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 3, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2019 Johnson won't resign, his ego wouldn't allow it. He'll do whatever he can to either ignore or displace the blame for whatever his climb down would end up being. Point the finger at Parliament and stoke up the populism for all it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: So if Boris says in no circumstances will he go to the EU for an extension and the vote tomorrow blocks No Deal ... let’s say he resigns .. what happens next ? Seriously? Someone else is appointed by HMQ to try and form a government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Sorry to be a bore, but could somebody explain to me in layman’s terms what the buggering hell is happening? I’m so confused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Paddywhack said: Sorry to be a bore, but could somebody explain to me in layman’s terms what the buggering hell is happening? I’m so confused. You and yours are getting right royally ****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Paddywhack said: Sorry to be a bore, but could somebody explain to me in layman’s terms what the buggering hell is happening? I’m so confused. Stick the news on, vote result coming in any moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Paddywhack said: Sorry to be a bore, but could somebody explain to me in layman’s terms what the buggering hell is happening? I’m so confused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 It's showtime. I'm oddly excited about Parliament TV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 3, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: Sorry to be a bore, but could somebody explain to me in layman’s terms what the buggering hell is happening? I’m so confused. Parliament is voting to take control of what is put forth to Parliament, ultimately with the aim of bringing forward a bill that will attempt to force the government to only exit with No Deal if Parliament agrees to it. Amongst other things. Edited September 3, 2019 by Chindie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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