colhint Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 No I can't. I worked in Joeys for a while that's probably the most cosmopolitan Sub saharan city. Didn't matter what your ethnicity, everyone identified by country. Same when I was in Asia. And don't think for a minute any Mexican or Canadian would ever describe themselves as North American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Not primarily, but as well as nationality. I have an Argentinian friend, who is quite happy to be identified as 'Latin American' among her European (e.g. British) friends. Doesn't mean she thinks she's Chilean or Brazilian, but she can see there are cultural similarities, just I can perceive cultural similarities between Brits and (say) Swedes, or French people, or Poles - as opposed to (say) Americans (even though Britain and the US share a language). I just can't see why any British person would insist that we aren't European; we simply are. I'm sure that's true. But how does she desribe herself. Is it Argentina or Latin American. Of course the other side is on my travels people would always introduce me as English or a Brit, Same with all the other nationals I worked with. German, French, Italian Spanish. I can't ever remember a time when we were introduced as Europeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, colhint said: I'm not sure I have come across this much. I have traveled all over the world pretty extensively and I don't think I have ever come across a person who identifies themselves from the continent where they were born. This is clearly more difficult for some people to explain and for some people to understand. There are people out there that aren’t thinking of themselves as ‘Spanish’ heck they might not think of themselves in those geographical terms at all on a normal day. But when the subject comes up, they’ll happily say they are European, or Catalan, or barceloni, or even Spanish, depending on the context. I’m not suggesting they rush up to strangers to state their European credentials whilst fist slapping their chest. I know lots of these people, in work and in social circles. If you haven’t met them on your extensive world travels, that’s absolutely fine. You’ve met one now. Edited October 9, 2019 by chrisp65 Auto correct was wrong 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 North American friends refer to me as a european. Filthy colonial bastards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tonyh29 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, bickster said: Where is the “ I’m European but I’m not .... “ video ? As that’s the one central to the discussion on the past few pages 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 9, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: Where is the “ I’m European but I’m not .... “ video ? As that’s the one central to the discussion on the past few pages You really want me to put an Elton john Video Up? Oh well, you asked for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Seat68 said: North American friends refer to me as a european. Filthy colonial bastards. Tbh I doubt your average American even has a notion of what Europe is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, bickster said: You really want me to put an Elton john Video Up? Oh well, you asked for it could have been worse, it could have been a Queen video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 9, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, tonyh29 said: could have been worse, it could have been a Queen video C'mon, there's absolutely no need for that. Famine, pestilence and an ISIS invasion wouldn't make me post such offensive material! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 One thing that has become clear in these last few pages is that it’s not just people’s mindsets that seem to fall into different viewpoints , we also seem to interact with entirely different people Type A are people who everyone they know introduces themself at dinner parties as being from a continent rather than a country and enjoy listening to Elton John Type B people never meet anyone that says Hi I’m Carlos from Latin America at dinner parties or visit offices in Wales we truly are a divided nation indeed 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Maybe, It's got me wondering if Gammon is a pan European epidemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 9, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, colhint said: Maybe, It's got me wondering if Gammon is a pan European epidemic. It's the human equivalent of Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis and can be effectively treated by regional isolation Trouble is the whole region suffering the outbreak has to suffer great pain and can take many decades to recover even after the affected stock have been culled 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I guess there must be a gammon contingent in every country, to greater or lesser extents. Gammon might not be the phrase they’d use, obviously, but they’ll be there. Can you have a halal gammon? That could need a different term. There are quite a lot of people, you’re going to get a wide range of views in a wide range of places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, bickster said: It's the human equivalent of Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis and can be effectively treated by regional isolation Trouble is the whole region suffering the outbreak has to suffer great pain and can take many decades to recover even after the affected stock have been culled Not sure that's true. BSE can't be treated. Maybe mistaken but I'm led to believe it's 100% fatal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I actually saw a cow fall over today, did a hilarious tweet about it and then worried I might have witnessed the re emergence of BSE. But it was too late. I’d tweeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I guess there must be a gammon contingent in every country, to greater or lesser extents. Gammon might not be the phrase they’d use, obviously, but they’ll be there. Can you have a halal gammon? That could need a different term. There are quite a lot of people, you’re going to get a wide range of views in a wide range of places. Glammon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 9, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, colhint said: Not sure that's true. BSE can't be treated. Maybe mistaken but I'm led to believe it's 100% fatal. You know what culled means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Lambon? Can you be a Jewish heritage gammon? Am I heading out on to the thin ice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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