ml1dch Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mozzavfc said: It was all part of her plan to get the UK out the European Court of Human Rights. That'll be the line all the Brexit throbbers push. Europe is telling us what we can do, Brexit means Brexit all over again Although, I believe the judgement also cited the UN Refugee Convention - so even if they *were* to somehow succeed with all of the above, the plan still wouldn't be lawful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 15, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted November 15, 2023 17 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: she was screaming encouragement for hate marches, racism and intimidation That’s perhaps the only bit where I don’t think you’re right. In a way what she did was more harmful than if she’d “screamed” encouragement. She instead spoke or wrote calmly and measuredly not so much encouragement, but a kind of absence of disapproval for far right nobbers, while labelling vast swathes of mostly peaceful people as hate marchers. Whatever, an over ambitious mouth breather who probably doesn’t even believe what she said 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Yeah this ruling has nothing to do with the ECHR. This is a ruling based solely on UK law, which is guided from other international law treaties. This is one of the perks of sovereignty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 15, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted November 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, Genie said: I want to know how much of our money they spent on Rwanda, which was always destined for failure. Anybody could see that. Sack worthy offence alone. About £140 million so far 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Like wasting public money, don't they? Why spend thousands on legal advice, when you can reduce the state by millions and keep the idiots distracted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2023 Apparently Rwanda are quite put out about being described as an unsafe state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 The "culture war" lot are throwing their toys out of the pram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 15, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Although, I believe the judgement also cited the UN Refugee Convention - so even if they *were* to somehow succeed with all of the above, the plan still wouldn't be lawful. Not just the Refugee Convention, there's a whole bunch more too. Some legal bod on the radio just now claiming we'd have to withdraw from the entire international treaty set up and become a complete pariah state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, wishywashy said: The "culture war" lot are throwing their toys out of the pram. Back? They didn’t come from Rwanda, is he aware of that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, blandy said: About £140 million so far Then the indirect cost of housing them for years because they couldn’t be arsed to process their applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2023 Next question for Mr Sunak, you’ve stated you’re the party of law and order, yet the deputy party chairman is suggesting breaking / ignoring the law to send migrants to Rwanda illegally… what’s your view on that? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 15, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Then the indirect cost of housing them for years because they couldn’t be arsed to process their applications. And the legal fees - the 140 million is just the cost to set up the facility in Rwanda so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, blandy said: And the legal fees - the 140 million is just the cost to set up the facility in Rwanda so far. It’s insane some of the stuff they get away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, Genie said: Then the indirect cost of housing them for years because they couldn’t be arsed to process their applications. As always to the financial benefit of a massive private company I believe (Serco). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 50 minutes ago, wishywashy said: The "culture war" lot are throwing their toys out of the pram. And thus the entire reasoning for this utter waste of time. They knew it was unlawful but a good campaigning point for the tofew eating wokerati for the next ge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Genie said: Back? They didn’t come from Rwanda, is he aware of that? He doesn't care where they come from, Rwanda, Bongobongoland, Leicester, whatever, get them on the **** plane The nicest thing I can say about Lee Anderson is he's not a man who overthinks the details. Edited November 15, 2023 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Davkaus said: He doesn't care where they come from, Rwanda, Bongobongoland, Leicester, whatever, get them on the **** plane The nicest thing I can say about Lee Anderson is he's not a man who overthinks the details. "If there's something that you want to do but it's illegal then you should just do it anyway" is a rich vein running through Toryism. Whether it's deportations, public money or sexual consent. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 15, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 15, 2023 So Sunak appears to be sticking with the Rwanda plan and will change domestic law in order to do it. Has he actually read the judgement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Albrighton Posted November 15, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2023 Simple case of misspeaking and getting words muddled, so a bit of a cheap humour. But that’s the level I’m happy operating at. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, bickster said: So Sunak appears to be sticking with the Rwanda plan and will change domestic law in order to do it. Has he actually read the judgement? Makes you wonder why he didn’t pull those levers earlier if it would unblock the problem? Oh, because they won’t, and it’s more worthless sound bites to buy a bit more time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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