Butterfingers Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 OK. So you agree that he's well within his rights to put his family first? I really don't know what your argument is. He is within his rights to do anything he pleases as he is contracted to Totenham. Nobody is forcing him to come here. I don't understand why you think its acceptable for him to travel to Europe and away games, staying in hotels for a London team but not to stay in hotels for AVFC? If this is a genuine reason for the deal falling through then I am well within my rights to say "Thank God he didn't sign for us". I only want players who are 100% committed to the club. Not pampered has beens who get a nose bleed if they go further north than Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 OK. So you agree that he's well within his rights to put his family first? I really don't know what your argument is. He is within his rights to do anything he pleases as he is contracted to Totenham. Nobody is forcing him to come here. I don't understand why you think its acceptable for him to travel to Europe and away games, staying in hotels for a London team but not to stay in hotels for AVFC? If this is a genuine reason for the deal falling through then I am well within my rights to say "Thank God he didn't sign for us". I only want players who are 100% committed to the club. Not pampered has beens who get a nose bleed if they go further north than Watford. No argument. Just asking the question and making a general point to the thread. Regards your second point, I never said anything of the sort. He has been left out of Tottenham's squad anyway so won't be travelling across Europe. It's phrases like "pampered has been's who get a nose bleed if they go further north than Watford" which sparked me to defend the guy a little. If he has lost his desire, or doesn't want to move away from his family, for WHATEVER reason, then fair enough. We won't sign him obviously and neither do I think we should. That doesn't make him a shit human being! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I've been waiting outside the club shop for a week to get one of the first Adebayor shirts that we've already had printed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 OK. So you agree that he's well within his rights to put his family first? I really don't know what your argument is. He is within his rights to do anything he pleases as he is contracted to Totenham. Nobody is forcing him to come here. I don't understand why you think its acceptable for him to travel to Europe and away games, staying in hotels for a London team but not to stay in hotels for AVFC? If this is a genuine reason for the deal falling through then I am well within my rights to say "Thank God he didn't sign for us". I only want players who are 100% committed to the club. Not pampered has beens who get a nose bleed if they go further north than Watford. No argument. Just asking the question and making a general point to the thread. Regards your second point, I never said anything of the sort. He has been left out of Tottenham's squad anyway so won't be travelling across Europe. It's phrases like "pampered has been's who get a nose bleed if they go further north than Watford" which sparked me to defend the guy a little. If he has lost his desire, or doesn't want to move away from his family, for WHATEVER reason, then fair enough. We won't sign him obviously and neither do I think we should. That doesn't make him a shit human being! You did say something of the sort-You said it was perfectly reasonable for him not to want to be away from his family. It is impossible for this to happen for a professional footballer as they are regularly away travelling with the team, be it away games, Europe, pre-season or a mid season break. I have not suggested that he is a "shit human being", only that if he doesn't want to accept the clubs rules then his appetite can't be that great and we're better off without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 It is perfectly reasonable for him not to want to be away from his family. I never suggested that would fit with our policy, or any clubs policy. Ok. We will agree to disagree from there I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Personally I don't the whole 'he doesn't want to uproot his family' is the real reason that the transfer hasn't happened. I've no substance behind that than just my own view. Ok, I'll elaborate. He supposedly doesn't want to move his family as they are settled in London? However, he'll more than likely be moving them next year anyway when his contract expires (unless he joins another London club of course). Therefore, I think its more down to the length of contract. I think he wants 2-3 years as opposed to a loan. What he probably doesn't want is to move his family from London to Brum now and then from Brum to somewhere else next year. That's what I think anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Thats a valid theory. It still doesn;t escape from the fact that he could stay in a hotel 3 nights a week and commute on his days off. If he wanted it that badly, that would have been the obvious thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We might not be his only option. Frankly, I don't think the hold up has anything to do with Adebayor. He wouldn't have been at BMH if so, IMO. It will be over wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 He could live in London and catch a helicopter every day for all I care as long as he performed on the pitch I'll be honest, I've wanted Adebayor here since Sherwood arrived and I remain hopeful a deal can be resurrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 It will happen Aug 30/31st I reckon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Again, I would argue that if it were wages then he could quite easily take a slight drop to see the deal through. We can't be that far apart. Milner did it in the summer and he's earnt way less than Adebayor has throughout his career. The way I'm looking at this is a loanee will take up a place of someone who is here long term. Gestede is a must start for me, meaning one of Grealish, Sinclair, Gil, Awye or Gabby would have to make way for Adebayor. If it was a straight choice with Gabby then I'd be for it but as it stands, I'd sooner see Sinclair given a sustained run in the side. I'm convinced he'd hit double figures. Before Gestedes arrival, I was very keen for Adebayor to sign. I'm not quite as keen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 It will happen Aug 30/31st I reckon. That's my view. I reckon it's probably to do with who will pay what but we don't NEED Adebayor so we can hold on and eventually Spuds will be forced to say **** it, he's yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I suspect Adebayor may well be looking for some commitment from our club beyond a 1 year loan, and our club is rightfully refusing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Again, I would argue that if it were wages then he could quite easily take a slight drop to see the deal through. We can't be that far apart. Milner did it in the summer and he's earnt way less than Adebayor has throughout his career. Milner was a few agent. Spurs gave Adebayor a deal, they should honour it like we had to honour ours. IMO again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie P Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 First post!! He would be a good signing as an old head amongst a young set up. On his day, better than what we have got and the TS factor would only help. I hope it goes through. Only sticking point I can see would relate to clauses on extending the deal after this season. Adebayor and Rudi up front could be a naughty little combo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 There's hardly any doubt its about wages. If he would rather sit on his arse (an be with his family??) for 100k a week guaranteed, that's fine by me, as its not the sort if player who's gonna graft for AVFC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) I don't think there has been a single player in the history of the game to take a pay cut to go on loan somewhere. What a ridiculous notion. Edited August 10, 2015 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I don't think there has been a single player in the history of the game to take a pay cut to go on loan somewhere. What a ridiculous notion. I totally saw what that said before you edited it... Methinks your phone is used to searching for a certain word... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 It takes all sorts... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 It could be that Levy wants us to pay 90% or something. I just think it must be a exceptional demand for Sherwood to turn down his pal Adebayor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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